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PostedJul 24, 2010 at 2:49 pm

I have been wondering if a straw beach mat would be a suitable backpacking pad for those hot summer months.

I currently use closed cell foam. Closed cell foam isn't really all that cushioned, so I think I could handle the even less cushioning of a straw mat. Site selection can also help.

Closed cell foam is really hot during the hot months. I will often wake up sweating against the foam. I use a quilt so I sleep directly on the foam. It's quite uncomfortable when it's hot.

I bought a straw mat for $4. I think sometimes they are even cheaper. It was not very light but it was huge. It came with 3 panels of straw sewn together. I cut off one panel.

It was about 6 feet long. I'm only 5'3" tall so I cut off a little from the end. This caused the straw to start to unravel. I quickly sewed some light fabric around the cut edge and then I reinforced a few loose places here and there. They don't make these mats to last very long.

With the mat cut to the new size, it feels like it weighs the same as my full-sized closed cell foam. I usually use half a z-rest and half a blue foam pad with velcro to stick them together. The velcro adds weight, so if I just had a torso-length or a pad not cut in half, the foam would weigh less than the mat.

I prefer a full-length pad because I have a quilt, sometimes sleep without pants and don't like having my skin against the floor of my tent or plastic sheet.

Foam is bulky. The straw mat rolls up quite a bit smaller. I can even fit my weekender bear canister inside the Relay with the straw mat. I'm planning a 5 day trip on the JMT next month. I'm not sure if I could trust the mat instead of the foam insulation, however.

I might give this a try next week on a trip I'm doing from Bucks Lake to Highway 36, the midpoint portion of the PCT. I'm sure the loss of insulation will be a bonus at this time of year. I remember being very hot last year.

Why even consider a straw mat? I think it would be a more environmentally-friendly alternative. Perhaps in the future I will weave one myself from spongier cattails or tule reeds, perhaps only torso-length. I guess I kind of enjoy toying with a sort of survivalist mentality. Could I survive sleeping on reeds instead of plastic?

What do you think of this idea? Probably pretty stupid, huh?

PostedJul 24, 2010 at 4:34 pm

I know exactly what you mean about sleeping directly on a foam pad with bare skin, same applies to an inflatable for me. I haven't tried a straw mat, but sounds like it might work as long as lack of padding isn't an issue.

To get around the sticking to an inflatable pad I made a short sheet out of nylon, short meaning from shoulders to just above my ankles. I sewed to the corners and in the middle 1"x1/2" strips of velcro to the sheet and used adhesive back velcro on the bottom on my pad, velcro holds the sheet in place all night. I cut the nylon wide enough to wrap around the sides and tuck under the pad to mate with the velcro on the bottom. I already had the velcro on the bottom of my NeoAir to use with 1/4" GG Thinlite for additional insulation for winter use.

Sheet weight 2.5oz, purchased material at Walmart for $2.

Mary D BPL Member
PostedJul 24, 2010 at 4:41 pm

It sounds like a good idea to me! I couldn't use it, because my old bones need a 2.5" or more thick air pad to avoid considerable pain, but if it's comfortable for you…. Foam and hot nights definitely do not mix!

You might want to weigh the cut-down straw pad to see how it compares to your foam pad. If you don't have a scale, drop by your local post office during a slack period. I thought having a scale that weighs to the nearest gram was a prerequisite for being on this forum! :-)

PostedJul 24, 2010 at 5:03 pm

Yeah, I thought about getting a scale but the Man of the house said that was going too far, delving the depths of UL insanity. Whatever. I know my gear is really light even if I don't know the exact weight to the ounce.

Mary D BPL Member
PostedJul 24, 2010 at 5:32 pm

Other uses for a postage scale, besides weighing backpacking gear:

Postage (duh!)

Cooking with European recipes, which use weight, not volume

Dieting

Probably others that I've missed!

John Nausieda BPL Member
PostedJul 24, 2010 at 5:40 pm

I used to use straw mats at the beach, but for hot weather camping how about a cotton sheet or towel, maybe over foam as well? I've done this at base camps in the Cascades with 90 degree days. Things do cool off at night so it's not an ideal test. Let's hear from folks in Arches, Canyonlands , and the SW. Cotton is a friend in hot and muggy conditions, especially Cotton Lawn.

Roger Caffin BPL Member
PostedJul 24, 2010 at 6:16 pm

> I thought about getting a scale but the Man of the house said that was going too far,

Try sulking and crying. Maybe he could buy you one to make up?

Cheers

PostedJul 25, 2010 at 7:41 am

>> I thought about getting a scale but the Man of the house said that was going too far,

>Try sulking and crying. Maybe he could buy you one to make up?

It's not really necessary anymore. Since my PCT hike, I think I've got my weight pretty well optimized. If it ever gets heavy again, maybe I'll buy a scale. Nobody is preventing me. They'll just make fun of me mercilessly.

PostedJul 25, 2010 at 8:07 am

I have used a straw beach mat on closed cell foam, it will leave you with a rattan tattoo for a bit and you need to use a new one, my old one broke down pretty quickly.
I would add the old "try it in the backyard first" condition too. I believe in the high country you need a bit more insulating value to stop downward thermal creep out, which is a nearly terminal condition if you don't have a decent scale at home.

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