Jul 20, 2010 at 3:36 pm #1261404
Companion forum thread to:Jul 20, 2010 at 4:07 pm #1630799
@hikinggrannyLocale: Gateway to Columbia River Gorge
Great to see PortlandHikers.org's very own Jerry having another article published here! Congratulations, Jerry!Jul 20, 2010 at 5:16 pm #1630817
And thanks for mentioning it on portlandhikers.org, a great site if you are into hiking around Portland OregonJul 20, 2010 at 5:44 pm #1630830
Most interesting. Very neat and simple. Compliments.
I agree entirely about external pockets being a bad thing, with one exception. I use something on the back to hold a sit mat or two: it's extremely convenient not having to stuff these inside after the pack has been filled.
As for eating on the run – what a waste of a beautiful outdoors. We go for 2.5 hours then have a sit down and feed. Coffee sometimes features as well. Much more pleasant.
Water getting in – it happens. I put almost everything into silnylon stuff sacks lined with PE bags. Never fails, weighs extremely little. OK – skip the gas canister and tent poles!
CheersJul 20, 2010 at 7:16 pm #1630860
@biointegraLocale: Puget Sound
Thank you for the fine article.
This is the first time I have ever seen all of the components of a pack itemized and weighed out (and priced too!) individually. The design is interesting as well, yet I appreciate that bit of information equally.Jul 21, 2010 at 6:14 am #1630944
Tyvm for the detailed build, In particular, thanks for the detailed pics of the bottom creation. I've always done it differently but this looks so clean and will try it next time.Jul 21, 2010 at 6:55 am #1630949
I read about that in Ray Jardine's book.
It's always amazing to me that when you're done, a square bottom appears.Jul 21, 2010 at 10:12 am #1630993
@mikeclellandLocale: The Tetons (via Idaho)
What? You don't actually TAKE all that toilet paper that you show in that photo?!?!?!Jul 21, 2010 at 3:14 pm #1631084
> What? You don't actually TAKE all that toilet paper that you show in that photo?!?!?!
Well, only sometimes.
You would be surprised how grateful some walkers are when offered a whole roll of TP after forgetting to bring any themselves – or after having experimented with going without for one 'sitting'.
(Couldn't resist!)Jul 22, 2010 at 9:13 am #1631308
@leadfootLocale: Middle Virginia
There ya go…ruining backpacking for the rest of us.Jul 22, 2010 at 5:50 pm #1631535
Jerry – nice work on the pack design and construction. Great article.
TP – is it a sin to steal a roll from a public restroom if you forget to pack it and that restroom is the last toilet before several days of toilet-less backpacking?
it happens : )Jul 23, 2010 at 6:59 pm #1631862
@james-cowderyLocale: Central Florida
Does the back panel add any stiffness to the pack? Did you consider putting your poles on the outside edges of the back-panel for extra stiffness?
Any thoughts of a pad pocket between your ribbed back-panel and the main body of the pack?Jul 25, 2010 at 12:52 pm #1632128
The back panel does add a little stiffness.
Good idea – poles at side on back.
Pad pocket? I think it's required to have a pad rolled up inside the pack bag in order to give it some stiffness using just lightweight silnylon. If you also wanted a pad, you could make a pocket to put it in. I'de probably eliminate the strips of foam in that case?
So many possible choices. It can keep us busy indefinitely trying different things out : )Jul 31, 2010 at 10:08 pm #1633866
@bleanLocale: San Jose -- too far from Sierras
< As for eating on the run – what a waste of a beautiful outdoors.
> We go for 2.5 hours then have a sit down and feed.
> Coffee sometimes features as well. Much more pleasant.
I have always believed that stopping like that is nice, but that fueling myself has to be convenient enough to do even if I do not want to stop — such as stormy or very cold weather. I would be very uneasy with a setup that meant I *had* to stop to get anything to eat.
— BobAug 1, 2010 at 2:59 am #1633887
> I would be very uneasy with a setup that meant I *had* to stop to get anything to eat.
Very true, and I agree.
On day walks I just put the tarp up.
On longer walks – well, very often we find some shelter. Around the Blue Mts here there are cliffs everywhere, and where there's a cliff there might be a cave – well, a small overhang anyhow.
Otherwise, we do carry a range of biscuits, including some 'sweet' ones which we normally have at lunch. Been a few times in pouring rain when we have stopped, hunched over the pack and got out the packet of sweet biscuits, broken off a handful each, closed the packs and continued walking gently, while munching.
Just cold – not fussed. Put something on.
But yeah, some flexibility is needed.
cheersAug 2, 2010 at 8:51 am #1634180
"I have always believed that stopping like that is nice, but that fueling myself has to be convenient enough to do even if I do not want to stop — such as stormy or very cold weather. I would be very uneasy with a setup that meant I *had* to stop to get anything to eat."
Different people have different styles that work for them.
I have had small pockets attached to the shoulder straps that I have put a snack in, or even some water. I just haven't bothered to do so yet on this version.
Or you could have a snack in your pocket.Apr 20, 2011 at 1:47 am #1726917
The using of loo rolls to get the shape is brilliant and will help me at last get the correct form of the BP. A constant problem for me along with the shoulder straps. Their placement, really.
Thanks for feeding my imagintaion and setting me off on another attempt of making the perfect BP for my needs. I'm about to start my 14th effort, the others to date(2 years worth) have all worked ok, but not been just right.
Since starting to make my own, I've reduced my base load from 30 lbs to 14 lbs including packweight.
Thanks once again for a neat project.
beardieApr 20, 2011 at 6:06 am #1726949
I don't know who is brilliant, but I am just a copycat
You've made 13 backpacks???
I've only made maybe 6 : )
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