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Time for an UL Pack?

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Simon Wurster BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 10:16 am

Been tweaking my summer list, got the base weight down to a hair under 15 lbs. (from 18, I think). I then noticed that 3 lbs. 2 oz. of that is my Gregory Z Pack!

So swapping that for a nifty ULA/GG/SMD/Z-Packs ______ (fill in the blank), I could easily drop another 1.5 lbs. or so! I haven't packed the new list in the Z Pack yet so I don't have a good handle on volume, but what was a dream may now be a "necessity" :-)

Yes, I have homework to do, but thought I'd throw the question out there, based on the weight and these other factors:
-I'm about 6', 220 lbs., and usually take a medium (torso) pack.
-Trips are short, no more than 4 days.
-Water is always far between, so I wind up carrying 2L all the time in a hydration kit. But I like the idea of switching to water Acquafina bottles…
-Winter is a possiblity, but I could use the Z Pack for that.
-Have never used a pad for a frame, but I'd like to use my 72" Neo Air for that. I have some old RidgeRests I could cut down if necessary.
-I use a poncho tarp in the rain over the pack, so waterproofness isn't necesary.
-I prefer a hip/waist belt and sternum strap. I would like hip belt pockets to use with my UnSlack (strap-mounted) pockets.

And I'm not averse to used packs (read: there's a budget issue here).

Thanks!

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 10:23 am

I would probably look at a GG Mariposa Plus, GG Gorilla, or ULA Ohm.

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 11:05 am

Yes, I think you are now a good candidate for a UL pack, having pared down your gear weight sufficiently.

The "usual suspects" above — plus I would also add Six Moon Designs, Mountain Laurel Designs, and Zpacks too!

PostedJun 23, 2010 at 11:43 am

In your situation, I would opt for one of the lighter framed packs that Bradford mentions. A 15 lbs baseweight plus 4 days of food and a few liters of water is going to be in the 25 lbs range which is perfect for one of these UL framed packs, but a little much for a frameless pack. If you do end up lighter in the future you can always remove the frame from these packs.

I love my 22oz ULA Ohm with the new hipbelt and those Gossamer Gear packs look really nice too. Either way, you're saving ~1.75 lbs.

PostedJun 23, 2010 at 12:21 pm

I've been using an SMD Starlite for several years. It's a great pack. This summer I bought a ULA Ohm for hikes where I don't need the volume of the Starlite. Also a great pack.

I agree that one of the framed UL packs would make the best transition.

John Vance BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 12:26 pm

+1 on the SMD Starlight. It has been my go to pack for several years but I just made the switch to a frame/stayless pack and love it.

With the weight you are looking to carry I would want a little more support than a frameless offers, particularly with a heavy platy.

Jim MacDiarmid BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 12:33 pm

The nice thing about the Gossamer Gear packs, or the SMD Starlite, is that the frame is removable.

I bought the Gorilla as my first UL pack, with the idea that the removable frame made it possible to experiment with frameless. If it turns out you don't like frame-less, you just leave the frame in and you have a fine pack. If you do, you chop another 1/4lb off the pack. For a hot weather over nighter, I could also remove the hipbelt and have a 1lb pack.

I also have a Starlite as my winter pack, and like that as well. The volume is too much for my summer trips.

I tried out a ULA Ohm at the time I was buying a new pack, and it carried weight a bit better than the Gorilla, but as much as I liked it, I found the hip belt not to my liking. (Just as some people find the wide shoulder straps of the Gorilla not to their liking)

Joe Clement BPL Member
PostedJun 23, 2010 at 8:31 pm

I've got a GG Mariposa and Gorilla. Both great. Frame is worth it. Still like my ULA Circuit when I have to carry a bunch of water.

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