1lb or under 32-40 degree bags?

An honest 32F bag for a pound or less? Prolly not — unless you go for a quilt.

For an honest 40F — take a look at MontBell.

Yeah, sorry, should've said quilt. ;)

Western Mountaineering Highlite

Fabulous Company…Great Bag

Jacks R Better shenandoah is 15oz i think and rated to about 40, but i have used mine down to freezing in baselayers and a warm hat and was fine. they are much cheaper than nunatak as well.

ooops.. the quilt part got added while I was posting.

But I just unzip my highlite and use it like a quilt anyway

Look to the EN ratings for sleeping bags. Montbells are generally overstated in warmth due to providing less down fill for the weight.

The Mountain Hardwear Phantom 45 is a little over a pound and has been EN tested to 32 degrees with light layers. 41 degrees comfort.

The WM Highlite at 16oz for a reg length is a great choice if a slim cut works. Also you may want to check out Katabatic's Palisade quilt at 17oz for a reg length. I received a Sawatch from them and have been extremely impressed.

New to the Ultralight Community. What's the diff between the two.

Thanks

bag has bottom insulation or fabric, quilt doesn't

I really love the look of JRB's quilts and the price is fantastic. My only issue is this:

Hudson River 11oz fill – 20oz weight
Shenendoah 6oz fill – 15oz weight

The Hudson River has almost double the fill (11oz) and is only 5oz more AND it has baffles. I would expect this to make it weigh more. Whats the deal with this?

Why cant I have a quilt that weighs 16oz with 8.5oz of fill using the same ratio as the Hudson River (down weight:quilt weight)?

I was thinking about asking JRB if they could understuff the Hudson River by 2-3oz..

I could make you one.

Ahhhhhh yes, Nunatak is still a possibility Josh, have you considered the Nunatak Arc Edge? It’s a conservatively rated 40F quilt that weighs 11oz., it has 6oz. of 850+ down fill and maintains a continuous baffle vs. the less efficient sewn through baffle designs. Sewn through baffling is going to create more cold spots and down shift vs. continuous baffling.

There’s currently an Arc Edge quilt, w/ .8oz Quantum shell, size Large in the Clearance section on the Nunatak website:

Nunatak Clearance: Arc Edge, 3rd item down

I emailed Tom about 6 weeks ago and he said he could have it filled and shipped in about a week. You can always overfill the quilt by an ounce or 2. This quilt, depending on your clothing situation, would be sufficient for your JMT thru and is one of the lightest and simplest options I can think of for those temperatures.

So, if you added a 2oz. overfill to that quilt, you’d essentially have a down quilt that meets your criterium:

Arc Edge 40F- 13-14oz. total weight with 2oz. overfill.
.8 Quantum Shell
Continuous Baffle construction
6oz. fill weight 850+ down (+2oz. overfill for 8oz. total)

* With the 2oz. overfill you could easily push the Arc Edge to 32F.

David:

Can you give us the link for Montbell's EN ratings? Thanks.

Javan: I'm looking for something around 16oz with baffles, ~8-9oz fill (close to 32 degree with base layers). Preferably Pertex Quantum. Would this be possible? I like the idea of the snapping footbox that MLD does also. BTW, I'm 6'1" and sleep in a hammock.

I've been kicking around the idea of purchasing the Arc Edge on clearance for a few weeks. Not too excited about the purple color and the $339 price tag.

Sending you a pm.

I hear you Josh, I was looking for a similar quilt falling under the same criterium as you, that purple Arc Edge on Clearance @ Nunatak stared me down for a week, I finally found a 17oz. custom Arc Specialist for the warmer 30-50F range of summer. I've owned a sil-nylon quilt and now own a Quantum shelled quilt and I much prefer the Quantum shell, it weighs less, the hand is slightly softer and the breathability for down gear is next to none, your quilt will literally balloon up when you take it out of your pack.

There's my 12 oz custom cuben quilt…….

I remember seeing, rather recently, a custom quilt Javan had made for sale here on BPL, if I remember correctly. Looked very well made!

Yep, he’s still selling it as far as I know:

Javan’s Custom 30F down quilt

It looks very well made from the photographs, the design is similar to the JRB quilts with the adjustable footbox, very cool.

I've made a bunch of quilts at this point, although I've only posted a few here on BPL.

Mostly been working with 1.1oz dwr ripstop, as I got a great deal on alot of it.

Here's a gallery of some of them at my picasa page, they all look similar, but there like 5 or so different quilts there.:

http://picasaweb.google.com/javan.dempsey/Quilts#

"Can you give us the link for Montbell's EN ratings? Thanks."

They refuse to subscribe to testing.

David, you wrote above, "Look to the EN ratings for sleeping bags. Montbells are generally overstated in warmth due to providing less down fill for the weight."

You made it sound like there were EN ratings on MB bags!? Anyway, the majority of feedback seems to point to MB bags as being accurately rated. They are for me.

I like your avatar though. :)