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PostedMay 17, 2010 at 12:52 pm

"I'd like to be known as "A man living his Ideals.""

Too easy.

In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live.

PostedMay 17, 2010 at 1:03 pm

"one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

Hmmm, like Henry David Thoreau??

Moose. Indian.

PostedMay 17, 2010 at 1:17 pm

Thoreau sure did have a lot to say about living a life that would've been luxurious (if not simply common)- to most people on Earth at that time.

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PostedMay 17, 2010 at 1:21 pm

Yama – ""I'd like to be known as "A man living his Ideals."

Craig – "Too easy. In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

Well, let's take this all the way. Believe that everything is illusory. Zero ideal mean zero disappointment. Buddhist nirvana, anyone?

PostedMay 17, 2010 at 1:30 pm

" Zero ideal mean zero disappointment. Buddhist nirvana, anyone?"

That is not to say that practicing Buddhists do not have ideals that they aim for in their pursuit of nirvana. Compassion, loving kindness, sympathetic joy, tolerance, patience. mindfulness, selflessness, and yes, also equanimity are just some of the many ideals of practicing Buddhists.

At least Buddhists are clear about what they are running from…suffering!

Edit: It just occurred to me you may have been referring to Zen Buddhism, in which case you are correct in that the "ideal" is no ideal.

PostedMay 17, 2010 at 4:21 pm

"In this case, one must merely pursue ideals that are not too lofty to live."

Isn't an ideal, by definition, like infinity, in that it may be approached but never attained?

PostedMay 18, 2010 at 10:31 pm

I don't run. Not for planes, trains or automobiles. Walking, on the other hand is the way to go. A good sailboat and a fair wind notwithstanding.

Supermax at speed
Supermax at speed.

PostedMay 18, 2010 at 11:46 pm

there is still an ideal, basically the same as other Buddhism: enlightenment. In Zen/Ch'an it's just a different approach and methodology. "Turning the eye inward," a sort of recognition of the innate buddha nature from within, rather than through verbal/external practice and focus, as with most other approaches. It's not getting caught up, like Hamlet, in "words, words, words," not looking for a specific path or way. Koans–the famous "sound of one hand clapping" or "face you had before you were conceived," etc. are intended to aid the practitioner in recognizing the futility of thinking systematically or linguistically and perhaps gaining an objective view of their subjective mind, perhaps leading to a dissolution of the barrier between object and subject (which is a Taoist notion infused in this branch of Buddhism). It's, perhaps, like the empty spaces between the notes that Miles Davis called attention to. I'd like to think there is something of it in the spontaneous "ghee" laugh and smile of an infant.

PostedMay 24, 2010 at 10:18 am

Notwithstanding those who love beige…

Beige is the parent color for the following exciting color choices: "drab", "buff", "tan", "ecru", "khaki", and "sand".

Beige is essentially the average color of the universe (aka "Cosmic Latte").

Who could forget the fascinating and often controversial "Summary of Commentary on Current Economic Conditions", published by the Federal Reserve Board, and known as The Beige Book.

In addition, 75% of the cubicle walls in America are beige in color, since beige wall decoration has been shown to reduce emotions in the workplace. Kind of like elevator music.

Erm, oh yeah, the original IBM PC had a beige box.

So, truth be told, I am running away from beige. :-)

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedMay 27, 2010 at 12:43 pm

"The worst day in the field is better than the best day in a cubicle."

Yeah, until we get laid off and can't find a job!! Not criticizing your post at all, Rakesh, but just pointing out one all-too-common human trait — viewing grass as greener on the other side of the fence.

We long for the green jungle and we're 'stuck' in our urban jungle. But ask any of the Chinese or Vietnamese worker if they want to walk 50 miles through the jungle hauling the pack they just finished sewing — and they'll think you're nuts!

PostedMay 27, 2010 at 1:46 pm

"Yeah, until we get laid off and can't find a job!! Not criticizing your post at all, Rakesh, but just pointing out one all-too-common human trait — viewing grass as greener on the other side of the fence."

Unless you make for yourself a job that requires being out in the field… like I'm doing :)

This isn't a case of the grass is greener on the other side, it's a case of there isn't any grass at all on this side.

PostedMay 27, 2010 at 2:05 pm

Now I've never worked in one, but I'd imagine there are no good days in cubicles.

PostedMay 27, 2010 at 4:33 pm

"Now I've never worked in one, but I'd imagine there are no good days in cubicles."

Sure there are, like when the EMT's haul your #$@#^#$ boss out on a gurney after his coronary. ;))

PostedMay 27, 2010 at 6:09 pm

Millerton, behind Friant Dam on the San Joaquin River, out of Fresno. It was blowing pea gravel across the parking lot and I was afraid we'd break something or capsize. We were out for a photo shoot and wouldn't have launched if not for that. It was so rough the photo boat just motored in place while we beam reached back and forth.

We raced that boat from 1974 to 1992.

Supermax - Lake Oroville - 1977
Supermax at the Commodor's Regatta, Lake Oroville, CA

PostedJun 8, 2010 at 12:47 am

I go for bloody ADVENTURE, man!!! There's just too much falsity and, well, humans man!! Where are the great adventures that cowboys had? The adventures from hundreds of years before, where a traveler might encounter just a lightning storm and it could mean life or death! When your out there, you have to use your animal instincts and wits…im running from this screwed up reality im bombarded with almost everday from the moment I wake up till my head hits the pillow. Im running towards whatever might happen that will make me feel alive. Whatever ensures me that this world is real.

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