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    George Matthews
    BPL Member

    @gmatthews

    Dear Food Experts,

    We know who you are : )

    Please give a Dehydration 101 for dehydrating soup. Starting after you've made the soup and can eat it.

    Now what do you do?

    Put in blender and then in trays and how long does it take?

    #1605574
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    There are several gals who are experts on this. I never made it past Soup Dehydration 1 and 2.

    I do not make the entire soup and then try to dehydrate it, because there are different ingredients that will dehydrate at totally different rates. If I tried this, it would be a mess.

    Instead, I just figure out what the ingredients need to be and then add those DRY ingredients into a ziploc bag. The two missing ingredients would be the water (of course) and the fat or oil (because it does not dehydrate!). I would carry the ziploc bag to camp, and then heat and rehydrate with water (of course) and a squirt of olive oil from a separate plastic bottle. Sometimes you will have ingredients that have completely different rehydration rates, so they have to be treated differently.

    But, that is just me. I would love to hear from the experts.

    –B.G.–

    #1605591
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    We like our soups thick, like a typical split pea. We do carrot, corn chowder, lentil , etc. But definitely thick.

    If it is a chunky style, it goes into the blender just to get things uniform in size. But not "homogenized".

    We have teflon sheets to go on top of our dryer trays, and we just pour it on, spread it uniformly, and dry it. Typically we give it around 8 hours. When it's dry enough to 'snap' we call it done. (obviously depends on your dryer)

    Then we pop it off, and usually put it in a blender for a buzz or two, to break up the big flakes. (less likely to puncture a ziplock.)

    The it gets bagged by serving size. That's it.

    Edit: Oh, sorry, I'm not a gal, but I got kitchen cred.

    #1605609
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    George,
    A couple of visuals –
    Carrot Soup
    Carrot Soup

    Soup Dried2
    Dried

    #1605612
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    The above soups rehydrate immediately with hot water.

    For a little more visual and textural appeal, add 1/4 of 'Just Tomatoes' freeze dried Mixed Vegies to the package.

    #1605683
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    George, how about posting the recipe for the carrot soup?

    #1605779
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    Tad,
    For the Moosewood Carrot Soup recipe, Look Here.

    (Powdered Buttermilk gets added to the dehydrated mix.)

    Edit: I'm not George, but I got kitchen cred. ;-)

    #1605791
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Greg, sorry about the George- not paying to much attention I guess- thanks for the recipe, looks good!

    #1606044
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Greg, the carrot soup is fantastic, I made if for dinner tonight and ate 3 bowls.
    My kids said it looked like throw up- until I made them taste it- they ate all of it!

    How long do you leave it in the dryer?

    #1606051
    George Matthews
    BPL Member

    @gmatthews

    Thanks for the recipe link. Looks good. I'd also like to know how long to dehydrate?

    #1606054
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    Guys, all food dehydrators are different since they have different wattages of heating elements. Further, they are all going to run differently based on the amount of wet food you put in. Just put it in and let 'er rip. The first time you dry something, check on it every hour or two, and that will give you a feel for its progress.

    When I dry a #10 can of wet sliced pears, it takes a minimum of 8 hours. However, sometimes it will take 10-12 hours. Part of that is from the wetness of the stuff.

    I did a can of tomato paste, and it took only two hours.
    –B.G.–

    #1606056
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    Dryer Time?

    Depends on your soup, on your dryer, on the humidity, and if you have to go looking for your dog…

    We dry it until it "snaps", versus acts like a leather.

    Ummmm… 6 to 8 hours ????…..ummmm…..

    Tad, yea, it lacks visual appeal. As mentioned, the Just Tomatoes 'Vegie Mix' really help in this department- color, texture, and little explosions of flavors.

    Glad it was a hit.

    #1606159
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Bob, thank you for explaining the difference with dryers- I think I had that part figured out. I just wanted to know an approx (thanks Greg) time to see if I could leave it on over night or not. I didn't want to have to "check on it every hour or two" during the night as you suggest, when I could do it tomorrow during work (I try for at least 7 hours sleep if possible).

    Greg, again, good tasting soup! How much powdered buttermilk do you add? and do you use a 1:1 ratio with water to rehydrate?

    #1606672
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    Tad,
    We use SACO and the mix is 4 Tablespoons of powder to 1 Cup of water. The recipe calls for a Cup of Buttermilk (or Yogurt.) So we add 4 T and call it good.

    #1606687
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Greg, how much soup mix do you have? I see you add 1 cup water (with 4 Tbls SACO), but I'd like to know the approx amount of dried soup mix.
    Thanks

    #1606691
    Roddie Larsen
    Member

    @hotrod

    Greg, how many cups of soup does the FINAL product make?

    #1606714
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    @Tad – I'm not getting your question. ¿ How much Dry does it make?

    @Roddie – …ummmm… don't really know… recipe says 4 to 5 servings, so 48 – 60 ounces? depending ….

    Edit: Not trying to be cute here. It's mayhem when we're putting meals together, and some details just don't stick.

    #1606723
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    Greg- I'm not trying to be difficult, just don't want to waste good soup on trial and error.

    I dried some of the soup (before adding the cream) so right now I have about 2/3 cup granular soup mix (used your blender idea).
    To make 1 serving how much of the soup mix do I add to my freezer bag? How much buttermilk powder? and how much water?

    #1606731
    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    OK, I think I'm tracking :-)

    It never seems to reconstitute to the original volume.

    We dry 2 cups of 'liquid' soup to make 1 serving. We measure out 2 cups of 'liquid' per dryer sheet to keep it simple. The results from each sheet gets zapped and bagged.

    When camping that goes into a 3 Cup cozy, to which we add enough hot water to hit the 2 Cup mark, which results in a thinner soup than we had 'in the kitchen'. So, less water at camp for thicker soup.

    Sorry it's so imprecise.

    Now, Buttermilk. I've been corrected by the Chef. We started using buttermilk powder, but have moved on to non-fat yogurt in the liquid soup. It seems to dry just fine.

    So now that I have led you astray….. You are trying to get a little 'tange' in there. The recipe calls for 1 Cup per batch, which is 4 to 6 servings, so 1/2 to 1 Tablespoon of Buttermilk powder per 'dry' serving? A WAG, but the best I can do.

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