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    Rick Dreher
    BPL Member

    @halfturbo

    Locale: Northernish California

    Telling us what we already knew.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2010/04/25/2703875/bee-exclusive-livestock-waste.html

    Attempts to bring federal grazing policy into the 20th century (much less the current one) have historically been doomed to failure–so politically powerful is the cattle industry. I doubt that's going to change soon, but shining the spotlight on bad grazing practices is always welcome.

    In the meantime, revel in the reality of that federal grazing fee the next time you camp at a cow-mangled meadow stream.

    Cheers,

    Rick

    #1601835
    Steve M
    BPL Member

    @steve-2

    Locale: Eastern Washington

    As was somewhat pointed out in the movie "Food Inc"., we have 3 votes/day that could influence this.

    Less cows eaten = less cows grazing.

    #1601837
    Justin Carter
    BPL Member

    @orangebananas

    Locale: San Francisco East Bay

    ewwwwww

    #1601846
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    I'm not saying there aren't any pristine waters left, but I'll always run my drinking water through a filter regardless of where I am.

    #1601942
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    It ain't only bears that $h!t in the woods.

    #1601952
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    Blame beef.

    #1601953
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    "It ain't only bears that $h!t in the woods."

    Yup. Hikers too. :)

    #1601954
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    You won't catch me squatting in a river.

    #1601955
    Travis Leanna
    BPL Member

    @t-l

    Locale: Wisconsin

    Eh, just hold it. For the ENTIRE trip.

    #1601957
    Nate Meinzer
    Member

    @rezniem

    Locale: San Francisco

    As an avid beef-eater, you can still do your part by eating Beef that is humanely, and environmentally raised. It's very easy to find in most places now. Also, you can limit your consumption. We were not meant to eat beef 7 times a week.

    #1601959
    Lynn Tramper
    Member

    @retropump

    Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna

    " We were not meant to eat beef 7 times a week."

    Careful there Nate. That's flame war material to the paleolithic diet fanatics!

    #1601960
    Jack H.
    Member

    @found

    Locale: Sacramento, CA

    "Total grazing fees last year came to $168,942 – just $3.33 per animal – less than a latte.

    The Forest Service takes in so little from grazing, the U.S. Government Accountability Office has reported, that it loses millions of dollars administering the national program. "The public pays to have cows contaminate the water," said Buckley, the nonprofit director."

    Thanks a lot for the article. Grazing on public lands should be shut down for the most part in my opinion. That Yost character isn't someone that I agree with.

    And to think that cattle raised on public land is sometimes sold as "environmentally friendly", grass fed beef. Screw that!

    #1601989
    Lynn Tramper
    Member

    @retropump

    Locale: The Antipodes of La Coruna

    "And to think that cattle raised on public land is sometimes sold as "environmentally friendly", grass fed beef. Screw that!"

    They all emit obscene amounts of methane, which is, like, 25 times worse for carbon emissions than CO2. nasty water and possible global warming bad guys. Vegetarians unite to save the planet :)

    It's certainly not just an American problem :( In NZ, they actually discussed hitting the farmers with a 'belch tax', as well as much stricter measures to reduce effluent in our water ways.

    #1602008
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "It's certainly not just an American problem"

    If you want to size the problem, think India.

    #1602009
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "You won't catch me squatting in a river."

    Think of the toilet paper you could save. ;}

    #1602022
    Brian UL
    Member

    @maynard76

    Locale: New England
    #1602041
    Tad Englund
    BPL Member

    @bestbuilder

    Locale: Pacific Northwest

    It would be interesting to see what everyones attitude would be if they made a movie about Dogs and the potential mess they make in the backcountry water systems-
    Maybe its not an issue or maybe we don't want to hear about it?

    #1602044
    W I S N E R !
    Spectator

    @xnomanx

    Oh, I never said I don't squat in rivers.

    I just said you'll never catch me. :)

    #1602055
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    ""You won't catch me squatting in a river."

    Think of the toilet paper you could save. ;}
    "

    Dammit Tom — how many times do I have to say this? You do NOT need a river to save on toilet paper! :)

    #1602070
    Jack H.
    Member

    @found

    Locale: Sacramento, CA

    "It would be interesting to see what everyones attitude would be if they made a movie about Dogs and the potential mess they make in the backcountry water systems-
    Maybe its not an issue or maybe we don't want to hear about it?"

    National Parks generally don't allow dogs in the backcountry. Most wilderness areas require dogs to be leashed at all times and for you to properly dispose of their waste.

    Dogs aren't like cows. Tax payers don't subsidize dogs destroying public land.

    #1602421
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "I just said you'll never catch me."

    Ah, The Wisner Corollary to the Stealth Camping Principle.

    #1602423
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "Dammit Tom — how many times do I have to say this? You do NOT need a river to save on toilet paper! :)"

    I know, ben, I know. All you really need is to attend Mike C's Sermon on the Mount. ;}

    #1602445
    EndoftheTrail
    BPL Member

    @ben2world-2

    Don C? Link please?

    And it's Ben with a capital B! :(

    #1602455
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "And it's Ben with a capital B! Ya got me there. An innocent typo.

    Dam# I'd hate to have you auditing my accounts. ;)

    #1602456
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    "Don C? Link please?"

    Aw, c'mon, Ben…..

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