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Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 11:56 am

My Dream Tent: A sub 2 pound 2 person single wall super breathable freestanding tent that has a decent sized vestibule and is burly enough to withstand 4 season abuse.

What is yours?

Thomas Burns BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 12:27 pm

But I'm not holding my breath. :-)

Stargazer

P.S. The four-season Tarptent Scarp 1 looks like it will fit two very friendly people, and it weighs in at 2 3/4 pounds.

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 12:36 pm

Definitely bug protection…Its starting to sound like a wet dream hahaha.

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 2:21 pm

"freestanding"

Maybe I'm missing something here, but the more firmly my tent is attached to terra firma, the happier I am. What's the big deal about freestanding?

PostedMar 29, 2010 at 2:25 pm

I only dream about the perfect hammock, tents would be a nightmare! =P

Bob Gross BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 2:32 pm

"Maybe I'm missing something here, but the more firmly my tent is attached to terra firma, the happier I am. What's the big deal about freestanding?"

Rog, sometimes we camp on snow. If the snow softens and the stakes pull out, then we have nothing. A tent that can stand on its own is a little better.
–B.G.–

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 2:41 pm

Oh No Bob. You shouldn't of said that…You just started a freestanding vs non-freestanding war :)

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 2:56 pm

"Rog, sometimes we camp on snow. If the snow softens and the stakes pull out, then we have nothing. A tent that can stand on its own is a little better."

Thanks Bob, that makes sense. Easier than digging bags of snow in I guess. Must be a worry when the wind gets up.

PostedMar 29, 2010 at 3:09 pm

"using wp/b fabric with the breathability of eVENT (or better), and weighing 2lbs:"
That is exactly the problem. I don't know of any fabric that "breathes" is waterproof and lighter than silnylon.
Does anyone ?
Franco

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 3:16 pm

"I don't know of any fabric that "breathes" is waterproof and lighter than silnylon.
Does anyone ?"

Tyvek?

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 3:19 pm

Franco:

If it's already reality, then it wouldn't be a dream anymore, would it? :)

Mary D BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 3:26 pm

Why stop at sub-2 lbs.? My ideal tent would be a 2-person tent weighing no more than 1 lb., including guylines and stakes. It should be made of fabric that doesn't stretch or shrink when wet. In addition to passing the Labrador retriever tail-wag test (which happens every morning on the trail), it should hold up to a foot of snow and 50 mph winds. It should also have enough headroom to be comfortable with a 2.5" thick air pad, something some tent designers seem to ignore. It should have plenty of ventilation to avoid condensation, but should be able to be closed down in high winds. Finally, the price should be no more than $200.

Unobtanium, of course!

PostedMar 29, 2010 at 3:52 pm

Ben
I was trying to turn the dream into reality …
Mary
Unobtanium is still restricted to the Men In Pink squad (formerly Men in Black, issued with new camo uniforms)
Typical, isn't it !
Rog
The breathable kind of Tyvek isn't very waterproof. Similar to Epic in my non scientific backyard tests.
And only a little bit lighter than silnylon.
Franco

Lawson Kline BPL Member
PostedMar 29, 2010 at 5:24 pm

Mary, Your dream tent sounds much better than mine. So I am now going with what you said.

As someone said tyvek is the only material I can think of thats lighter than epic and breathes, but in my opinion its to weak to be used in a 4 season tent. (I can rip it with my hands) So maybe a nonwoven like Tyvek made of Dyneema for $1.00 a yard.

PostedMar 29, 2010 at 6:46 pm

Perhaps we can use the material from the Frogg Togg Driducks poncho. It's not very strong, so the bulk of the tent would need to be something stronger, like silnylon. The design would have to maintain its structural integrity with no help from the breathable part. Something very light and breathable (Driducks, Momentum, Silk) could be added in places that don't need to be strong and are at least partly shielded by the waterproof part of the tent.

As a first attempt at describing it:
think of a pyramid tent of silnylon raised up a foot or so off the ground, with breathable fabric as vertical sides going from the ground to the silnylon.

OR, a silnylon pyramid raised up a bit off the ground with a light silk full inner tent. In Gerry Cunningham's old book on MYOG outdoor gear, he describes winter tents like this where the inner tent can be lowered to minimize the volume your body must heat.

PostedMar 29, 2010 at 8:57 pm

Lemme see… My moment in very light 2 layer eVent canopy and no netting on the inner door side EXCEPT on the door as a zippered venting option.

(And an Unobtainium 0.2 oz. cross pole, of course, and some Unobtainium stakes.)

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