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Amazing new UL firestarter

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PostedMar 19, 2010 at 8:58 pm

Hey guys, i was at work today and i found this stuff we use to clean cabinets with called "bees wax cheese cloth". From the name i figured it may be a good firestarter. I found out it was an incredible fire starter. It lasted 6minutes and 12 seconds with a 5-7inch flame. After it was burned I observed a large red ember inside the mass(it didn't disappear like paper when you burn it, it shrunk into a tightly burning mass).

It worked so good I'm considering ditching my alcohol if it doesn"t damage my pot too much. I would save ALOT OF WEIGHT if i didn't have to carry liquid/esbit fuel.
Method:

Cut 4-5 inch square piece of beeswax cheesecloth
Rub in vaseline, coat most of the piece with a thin film of vaseline
roll into a tight ball and squeeze
barely unwrap it, light and be amazed

My cotton balls weighed more than this stuff and took up way more space(a whole medicine bottle). You could store this stuff in squares and compress it when you need to make a ball.

I believe the rest of it would have eventually burned off if there was an actual fire above it. But what is really amazing is I PICKED IT UP WITH THE EMBER(about the size of a dime) INSIDE AND IT WAS NOT BURNED ON THE BOTTOM AT ALL, literally perfectly white like before i lit it. It has suctioned itself to the ground almost and remained untainted on the part touching the concrete.
Pics below:
5-7inch flameflameagebeeswax cheesecloththickness of materialunburned bottom of firestarter, and ember(hard to see)

THATS RIGHT 6+ MINUTES =)

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 12:10 pm

does anyone have any idea what kinda pot would be ideal or a setup such as this?

Or if it would damage an aluminum windscreen.

I dont wanna go burning my stove and pot up as its the only one i've got if someone already knows the answers.

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 1:12 pm

I suspect it is Tack Cloth which is used in auto repair painting to remove all dust prior to painting. It is also used for cleaning wood furnature prior to application of the finish. You can find it about anywhere those types of products are sold. The even have it at WalMart.
Going to WalMart shortly and I think I'll pick some up to give it a try.

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 1:31 pm

We use it to clean cabinets before we coat or paint them. Mine is coated with beeswax though, not sure if you can get the beeswax version at walmart. I gotta run guys, will check back later tonight. Your correct, It is beeswax tack cloth.

Rog Tallbloke BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2010 at 2:44 pm

The beeswax will add a lot to the calorific value. Sounds good Issac. I was messing with petrolem jelly earlier today. I can get a 1 pound plastic pot of it for £1 at my local poundland shop. Leave a greasy black residue on the pot, but plenty of heat for the weight.

To answer your question about setup, a windsheild with skewers through to support the pot, air holes through the bottom edge and an alufoil floor will work well. You need a resonable height to allow enough air/fuel mix to complete combustion under the pot.

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 6:19 pm

If anyone is looking for these beeswax tack cloths, check your local auto store. Im not sure they will be beeswax, but as long as they are waxy, and when you touch them, your finger becomes waxy, you should be fine. Check your local autozone or similar. report back

John Nausieda BPL Member
PostedMar 20, 2010 at 7:04 pm

It's great stuff, but watch out for Spontaneous Combustion in your home or pack. This is a traditional cloth used for linseed oil or Tung oil or French Polish. Plus you don't want to use stuff coming out of woodworking shops unless you assess their use of Japan Driers which are hazardous.

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 7:26 pm

as far as spontaneous combustion, i don't see any way that could happen,it is not an explosive, and when i lit it it took a few seconds to catch. what are these japanese dryers?

PostedMar 20, 2010 at 7:56 pm

Gauze pads also work great, and I'm already carrying them. The wrapper also burns well. For emergency use that's all I need. For regular use, other stuff like this is better.

PostedMar 22, 2010 at 8:14 am

Ok guys, got the info on what im using. THey are made by this company:
http://www.bondcorp.com/products.html

You can see in the picture at the top, there is a rectangular mass. The sheets come in this mass, they are $1.74 per bundle and have about 100+ sheets in them. So they are less than 2 cents a sheet. One sheet could probably start anywhere from 5-10 fires, so they are super cheap. item number: ws12cb(not sure this is the item number, was just on the package).

Also combustion is not an issue with these, combustion only occurs in glaze cloths, not in these. It occurs in glaze cloths because they are stacked on top of each other, the solvents build up heat and catch fire. Not an issue here. Besides even if it was an issue, you would not be stacking a hundred sheets on top of each other anyway.

Jim Colten BPL Member
PostedMar 22, 2010 at 10:18 am

Ok guys, got the info on what im using. They are made by this company: http://www.bondcorp.com/products.html

Hmmm, that site does not have info about how/where to buy the stuff.

Anyone interested a group purchase if I search/broker/repackage/reship ???

PostedMar 22, 2010 at 12:47 pm

jim, they come in bricks of 100 sheets. Try to see if they recognize the product code i gave you. I dont want you to order something different and have not be the same and get poor results. There is also a lot# on the package, i will get it for you in a few minutes when i get a break, maybe that will help. Im not 100% sure they are beeswax, thats what i was told from my boss, but who knows, he may be full of it. Also we get good deals because we order so much, we got boxes with 34-36(not sure exactly but thats the range) bricks at a time.

PostedMar 24, 2010 at 4:18 am

Ok guys, an update. It turns out there is no wax, beeswax, or silicone, a hammock forums member called the bond corp and they said this. Turns out my manager was wrong. SO why does it matter? Well bond corp has offered to sell to a guy on hf, so im sure they would sell to you guys. Try to use the item number i gave and see what you can get if you are interested in it.

I guess the material plays more of a role than we origonally thought. The vaseline is important, but the material also has something to do with the long burn time. Over and out.

PostedMar 28, 2010 at 5:36 pm

Made some petrolatum impregnated beeswax tack cloth fire starter. Photos and comments at hammockforum.net. Non-hammock forum thread titled "amazing new ul firestarter".

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