Bad Experience with Mountain House Dinner?

Whoa, Ben! Botulism is NO FUN! Be careful with packaged food that might seem spoiled!

Wow Ben, it is pretty good you did not eat it.

I eat a lot of freeze dried as I really like them but have never tried that flavor. Nothing from them or the other guys have ever had that smell though, so I am guessing it was bad. I would contact CS and talk to them about it. Do you still have the batch number/exp date?

When the first dehydrated backpacking meals were introduced (before MH) I had a bad experience that scared me away from them until MH had been out for a while and getting good reviews.

When you hike with us someday ask Dave about his experience with an early meal. Talk about a campfire horror story…

It wasn't spoiled in the normal sense — no sour taste whatsoever. It was a strong, obvious smell of "turpentine" — plus an overpowering, revolting chemical taste. I would call it turpentine taste, except I've never tasted turpentine before.

Well, it looks like botulism is rare these days, but even then, why would you try something that smelled like turpentine (unless it was ouzo or had pine nuts in it)? Who knows what it was?!?!?

Based on your explaination I would suspect that the oxygen absorber packet may have ruptured, or was defective. I would send Oregon Freeze Dry an email explaining your experience. You didn't by chance save the package did you?

Ben,
What does Mountain House have to say?
I'm sure they are interested in your experience.

Thus far I've had only good experiences with Mountain House, or as good as can be expected from the Freeze Dried shelf.

I examined the small package and it was intact.

I just called MH. They have never heard of the above — and unfortunately, although I packed the thing back home with me, I absent mindedly tossed all trash into the trash bin and it's been collected away.

MH offered to send me a replacement but I declined. It was just one bad package anyway.

Did you save the packaging? Can you post the lot/serial #? I think I have one of those at home. Besides the freakishness of the incident, did losing that meal impact your trip?

I've used MH for years, never had a problem with quality (taste, on the other hand…). Even stuff close to expiration date (I think the same month/year) was OK. I really like their Pro-Paks for compactness.

I think there's a lesson or reminder for all of us to pack an extra meal (or food) as this is a justifiable "just-in-case" scenario.

INGREDIENTS: Potatoes, Cooked Chicken, Linseed Oil, Carrots, Turpentine, Peas, Corn Oil, Formaldehyde, and contains 2% or less of Nonfat Dry Milk, Modified Corn Starch, Salt, Hydrolyzed Corn Soy Wheat Gluten Protein, Dehydrated Onions, Chicken Fat, Sugar, Paint thinner, Spices, Soybean Oil, Garlic Powder, and Spice Extract. Contains: Milk, Soy, Wheat.

It must be just you! The ingredients look fine!

Ok….seriously, I like mountain house and I've never had a bad experience. I'd contact them asap.

Simon:

My last post above will answer some of your questions (we were probably typing away at the same time).

I did bring an extra MH — so no impact on my trip. Like you, I've used their products for years now and have no complaints at all (except the taste could be improved further).

Brian – my hiking buddy smelled the same "turpentine" smell.

That makes 2 of you who do not like the latest gourmet craze – "Chicken ala Turpentine". Sounds like it could be a throwdown with Bobby Flay.

I have never had the "Chicken Stew" but I do like several MH meals….hopefully this is just an isolated incident. I can imagine how disappoionting it is to cook up a hot meal, and then "surprise".

I saw that they offered a replacement, and seems weird that they have never heard of something like this….and if so, I'm sure they would not mention it.

>> unless it was ouzo

would've taken Ben from Bad Experience to Purple Haze : )

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Ben,

Definitely contamination at processing plant. This is a common risk we all face due to so much being processed by so little. Glad to hear you were not harmed.

I don't find it weird.

Years ago I went to eat a MH meal on a trip. When I went to eat it, it reeked like chemicals for cleaning. It was BAD smelling. Ford and I went hungry that night. It was the reason I quit eating commercial meals for the most part and what changed me.

Only that one meal, but it was enough.

Sarah:

Makes one wonder about those chemicals — whatever they are! And this reminds me of the "benzene scare" that almost did Perrier in back in the '80's.

Sorry to hear about that Ben. Good thing you had an alternate plan. Whenever I go out I plan my food and then there's the "+1" for when/if that exact thing happens.

I've used their stuff for years with no problems. Remember the cardboard "ring" you had to punch out from the white base and push it down the bag opening after you twisted it? LOL (or was that BPP?).

Anyhow, due to the cost and some of the "stuff" in those things I've been slowly working on making my own – got Sarah's book off Amazon and it has been a great help.

Oh wow, that is memory lane! The ring that would always pop off. Lol!

It couldn't have tasted any worse than their Turkey Tetrazzini

Several years ago I had a bad experiuence with a freeze-dry meal. I don't remember the brand but when we opened the package of beef stroganoff it had an "off" smell. Thinking that it may have just been an odd spice, we hydrated it anyway and let it set. When we opened the package to eat, it smelled like rotten meat! One brave soul in our group (Darwin?) took a bite and immediately spit it out. The meal had apparently spoiled, but there was no obvious breach of the packaging, nor any outward sign that the meal was unfit to eat. That put me off of packaged FD meals for quite a while. I still use them occasionally, but always inspect the packages closely before purchase and use.

It sounds like Ben's meal was probably contaminated in the factory. I would guess by chemicals used to clean or disinfect equipment. Probably inadequate flushing after routine cleaning. MH should take his report as a warning and pay closer attention to proper cleaning procedures and perhaps a bit more QA/QC!

You could have tossed a match in and had a flambeau!

True.

You could have used your meal to remove the pigment from that grand wilderness canvas, too. And had yourself a personal whiteout.

Oh my dining, oh my dining, oh my dining Turpentine!
You are lost engulfed for ether, oh my dining Turpentine!

LOL!!!