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    Zack h
    BPL Member

    @want2belite

    I've been fiddlin with a pot stand wind screen combo..similar to what you see over on zen stoves under the 'narrow windscreen'.

    Basically the Al stand is a narrower dia than the pot (in my case a snow peak 1400 ti). So no pegs…pot is NOT recessed into the stand…it sits on top.

    I have 2 rows of hole-punch dia holes on both ends of the stand…it still doesn't seem like enough even though the diagram at zen stoves would have you believe it…

    the exhaust smells a bit and i'm not getting a complete burn or a complete boil (2 cups, 1 oz of fuel). I really dont think its the stove.

    Just add more holes?

    edit: running the stove by itself i'm not really getting super nice blue flames…still a little orange and tall…not sure if that helps? (edit edit: going to try different fuel)

    #1578472
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    Put your pot on the stove/support with the flame going. What is the distance from the top of the flame to the bottom surface of the pot?

    Every combination is different, and you need to find the right distance for your rig. However, a typical distance is 1 inch.
    –B.G.–

    #1578473
    Zack h
    BPL Member

    @want2belite

    the zen stove pattern called for 1.5" i think? will double check tonight…

    any other ideas?

    #1578478
    Gary Dunckel
    BPL Member

    @zia-grill-guy

    Locale: Boulder

    Is there a difference between Esbit and alcohol with respect to the pot height above the flame?

    #1578479
    Lori P
    BPL Member

    @lori999

    Locale: Central Valley

    What fuel are you using and what are you changing to?

    What kind of stove? (I'm trying to load the zen page, it's going real slow for some reason.)

    #1578481
    Zack h
    BPL Member

    @want2belite

    top burner…open well, no priming…

    fuel…in all honesty i'm not 100% i but i think it was the crappy red heet….going to try the yellow tonight and/or denatured alcohol….

    thoughts?

    #1578484
    Bob Gross
    BPL Member

    @b-g-2-2

    Locale: Silicon Valley

    Yes, try either denatured alcohol or yellow Heet.

    –B.G.–

    #1578485
    Lori P
    BPL Member

    @lori999

    Locale: Central Valley

    Isopropyl has water in it – switching fuel will help a lot. Give the yellow bottle HEET or denatured a try, see what happens.

    I just scrolled through the windscreens and pot stands. Still not sure which one – geeze, the options are endless – but if the fuel doesn't fix the problem, try a conventional wire stand and windscreen around the pot. You might be able to get a boil if the heat is more widely distributed across the bottom of the pot.

    #1578504
    Zack h
    BPL Member

    @want2belite

    http://zenstoves.net/PotStands.htm#WindScreen-PotStand

    if you go here and look down to step 3…the first section is 'narrow windscreen'

    the only difference is that i have more holes than they are showing.

    will try other fuel first…

    #1578534
    Keith Selbo
    Spectator

    @herman666

    Locale: Northern Virginia

    The trouble with this approach is the more you open it up to get good air flow (you need to add both top and bottom holes to increase oxygen flow to the flame) the less wind protection you get. Sort of a win, lose situation.

    I recommend you go a little further down the zen page and try the riveted tab approach. That's what I use and it works very well both as a pot support and a wind screen.

    By the way, they overkilled on the rivets. You only need two per tab.

    #1578797
    Frank Deland
    Member

    @rambler

    Locale: On the AT in VA

    Gary, this article might help answer your question.

    http://thru-hiker.com/articles/esbit_stove_height.php
    .

    #1578805
    Gary Dunckel
    BPL Member

    @zia-grill-guy

    Locale: Boulder

    Thanks much, Frank–that solves the Esbit issue. Anybody able to surmise the distance for alcohol (or a tea candle, or 3 in a triangle, for that matter)? I feel the need to know, gear geek that I am. I've been playing around lately with these combinations, and any help would be great.

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