Guns in national parks… NOW LEGAL!

Somewhere, P.T. Barnum is smiling.

Perhaps the point is that it seems you don't know the laws regarding it, but wade right into California bashing. Even if the specific law(s) regarding one specific item in the entire state doesn't make sense to you, why say it is a "stupidly governed state"?

p.p.s. Guns guns guns. Can't make it through a fortnight without yet another gun gun gun thread.

There are plenty of reasons I feel that California is poorly governed. It's my personal beliefs. I never said anything negative about the State itself. I think all politicians are worthless. Not just Californians. There are plenty of people on this forum who live in Georgia who are proud of that fact. This State has a lot to offer. Blanket statements such as the one you made shows ignorance.

Oh the no! In haste I improperly used it's over its. Was that your attempt to belittle me?

Your rudeness is noted. I won't play internet tough guy with you. Your internet peNis is HUGE!

You can't be pro-blanket statements for you, and anti-blanket statements for me.

Well, you can be.

But it doesn't make sense.

It's fun though.

All Georgians catch panfish.

All Californians are good at hackysack.

All Canadians enjoy syrup.

See?

Fun.

What's a "peNis?"

APpar3ntLee u d0nt wUT 1z uP!

What's a "peNis?"

When you're older. ;)

EDIT – The fact that the word peNis is flagged disturbs me.

Haha!!

Wait, what was this thread originally about?

shhh. don't remind anyone.

"What's a "peNis?""

Generally, a smallish weapon that most owners think is more powerful than it really is. Many have a hair trigger that fire prematurely. In most places you must carry it concealed. I take mine backpacking all the time, but fortunately I haven't had to rely on it. And I don't count it in my overall weight…..

It is, however, the one item that even the most avid lightweight backpacker will always claim is anything but UL.

I think it fits with the thread…..

Douglas, that cracked me up!

LOL @ Above. Well played sir.

Juston, how's your coffee? I'm finally having mine.

Can't taste it though. Been really sick lately…..

I'm way beyond coffee at this point. I moved on to the hard stuff.

>I moved on to the hard stuff.

Watch what you say when the subject line has "UL peNis" in it!!

:D lulz

why are you guys posting irrelevant comments to this thread? clearly this thread is done with, and hopes for discussion about a new law that effects us all is all but moot…

so, you disagree, and because of that you want to derail this thread into chaff, your intelligence is overwhelming…

real cool guys, for some reason I expected more from you… then I read UL peNis, some of you have no hope…

over and out.

Sorry Jesse. I kinda forgot what the original thread was all about. Just got caught up in the moment. Please accept my apology.

> hopes for discussion about a new law that effects us all is all but moot…

If you wanted a reasonable "discussion" about this issue, the slant of your original post might not have been the best way to begin such. Looks more like vigorously stirring a pot that too easily boils. Have you seen any of the 407 previous gun threads on BPL? ttfn.

I just want to take this moment to say douglas is my absolute favorite poster on this site. Brilliant!

UL peNis: I never take these into the back country as I don't feel a need for one, and far from offering protection I would deem that it is something that some of us would need to use protection against. I'm super UL…no gun, no peNis, but I still take toilet paper.

What do I think of the change to the American gun laws (the original question)? Nothing at all. Doesn't concern me, and probably never will. I'm much more scared of hunters than hikers.

Whats with pepper spray being illegal in parts of CA? Can someone enlighten me on this since I might be out there at some point? Can I bring my bear spray?

From some web site or other after a quick google search:

Pepper Spray Laws and Restrictions By State

The following six states have outlined specific restrictions and laws of purchasing traditional pepper sprays. Animal repellents (bear sprays and dog sprays) for protection against vicious dogs and wild bears can be shipped to all 48 contiguous states.

New York Pepper Spray Laws: Animal repellents, including dog and bear pepper sprays, can be legally sold and shipped through online retailers. High decibel personal safety alarms also legal to carry and use. Traditional pepper spray sold in pharmacies and by licensed firearms dealers locally.

Massachusetts Pepper Spray Laws: Animal repellent pepper sprays are legal and can be purchased online. Traditional pepper sprays are only available through local licensed firearms dealers and cannot be purchased through online websites.

Michigan Pepper Spray Laws: Animal defense sprays and personal alarms can be legally purchased online. Other pepper spray products must be less than 35 grams of product and 2% or less OC concentration. OC pepper sprays only. No UV dyes.

Wisconsin Pepper Spray Law: Pepper spray only, no stronger than 10%. Safety features required. Weight allowed 15-60 grams.

California Pepper Spray Law: Canisters must be less than 2.5 ounces.
Washington D.C.: Must register pepper spray possesion with local law enforcement

Defense Spray Use in California (Tear Gas)
In California you can get a state penalty of up to a thousand dollar fine and/or up to three years in prison for misuse of tear gas and you would also have a felony conviction on your record for the rest of your life. Some conditions that qualify as misuse of tear gas including using it on people in anger, spraying it as a joke or tear gas possessed by prohibited persons. Those who are legally prohibited from possessing tear gas includes minors, drug addicts or persons convicted of felonies and assault, although these people can procure tear gas with very few barriers.

In California any legally purchased canister of tear gas that is going to be possessed or used must have a label stating the following: “WARNING: The use of this substance or device for any purpose other than self-defense is a crime under the law. The contents are dangerous–use with care.” For a canister of tear gas the maximum legal weight is 2.5 ounces or 70 grams of OC, CS or CN. For civlian use CR is illegal.

"So how often can I to stumble across "Mexican" cartels, meth labs, and pot farms in National Parks?"

If you want to test you luck, try hiking in the SW quadrant of Sequoia NP, in the foothills around Mineral King. Last I heard, anyway. It would be nice to find out that they cleaned that one up since I last checked, but several years ago rangers and local law enforcement felt outgunned and stayed away. Apparently the Mexicans had AK-47's and lots more goodies. Bad scene, bad odds for a CC guy with a handgun.

"Somewhere, P.T. Barnum is smiling."

And H.L. Mencken. ;}

"What's a "peNis?"

Ah Douglas, me lad, you're a bleedin' rip. LOL