Jan 31, 2010 at 3:54 pm #1254702
How many of you carry this? If not, do you carry other stuff that will perform the same functions? What exactly IS its function? Does it have any multiple uses?Jan 31, 2010 at 4:03 pm #1568300
Cayenne RedmonkBPL Member
@redmonkLocale: Greater California Ecosystem
I carry some in a little tube with a small paint brush. I paint it on where I want tape to stick.Jan 31, 2010 at 4:09 pm #1568302
@foundLocale: Sacramento, CA
I carry some in a small micro dropper bottle. I use it to make tape stick. Another use for it is to toughen your feet up, but that's not really multiuse for the field. I'm a big fan of ToB.Jan 31, 2010 at 4:13 pm #1568303
Sanad ToukhlyBPL Member
@red_foxLocale: South Florida
I don't need to use Benzoin because I use Leuokotape. It works very well and I've never needed to apply benzoin to get it to stick.
-SidJan 31, 2010 at 6:20 pm #1568357
I am not well versed in wilderness medicine, but plan to learn more … so, pardon the stupid questions. Does Sterile Gauze wrapped with duct tape around a wound provide the same functionality as leukotape? What is the leukotape primarily used for … blisters?Jan 31, 2010 at 6:26 pm #1568359
obx hikerBPL Member
@obxcolaLocale: Outer Banks of North Carolina
Right here on our blog:Jan 31, 2010 at 6:26 pm #1568360
@b-g-2-2Locale: Silicon Valley
The high school track coach always made us apply this stuff to our feet before taping. Also, the alcohol in it has a slight effect of toughening the skin. It is kind of messy to use on the trail, though, and it tends to stain your socks brown.
Some of the modern alternatives are more portable.
Personally, I don't use the stuff anymore. I carry one good roll of cloth-based sticky first aid tape (which doubles as your garment repair tape).
–B.G.–Jan 31, 2010 at 6:45 pm #1568371
@g8trh8trLocale: South East
I always carry Tincture of Benzoin in my 1st aid kit. It works great as an adhesive for moleskin or any other bandages that you need to stay in place.Jan 31, 2010 at 6:46 pm #1568372
I use it for bonding tape to a trouble spot. I have some in one of the BPL dropper bottles. The dropper tip serves as an applicator.
Once a spot is clean, and then de-oiled with alcohol, I spread enough benzoin to cover the target area, plus a little. I then apply Leukotape. I have not any tape de-bond over the course of a week and 100+ miles.Jan 31, 2010 at 6:51 pm #1568379
So what if you use pre-cut blister pads for blisters, and carry sterile gauze + the appropriate ointments etc. for larger "wounds" … is tape ever needed? And therefore … Tincture of Benzoin?Jan 31, 2010 at 7:02 pm #1568388
I've never been able to keep pads or simple tape on my feet for very long. Benzoin and Leukotape make a near permanent application. The potential for blistered toes or heels is a far more likely scenario than a flesh wound. And Leukotape by itself will suffice for those.
YMMV.Jan 31, 2010 at 7:15 pm #1568392
What do you use in the unlucky event of a larger-ish wound?Jan 31, 2010 at 7:20 pm #1568394
If it is truly serious, I clean it, use some antibiotic, cover it with anything relatively clean, and tape down the edges. I wouldn't "close" it.
If it's pizza leg, I clean it and ignore it.Jan 31, 2010 at 7:30 pm #1568397
Pizza leg … is that like lots of gravel and scrapes from abrasion … akin to road rash?Feb 1, 2010 at 6:49 am #1568493
Yes. The generic "slip and scrape."
There have been recent threads on what makes a good first aid kit, and why. Brad Groves' article "Be Prepared, Not Equipped" touches on this. Wilderness First Aid courses emphasize the need to improvise.
Perhaps another thread is in order, to preserve the integrity of this one.Feb 1, 2010 at 8:50 am #1568519
I agree – there have been quite a few good threads on first aid lately! I've learned a lot from them – but that Tincture of Benzoin just kind of got away from me.Feb 1, 2010 at 10:01 am #1568537
I've been reading up on the Leukotape more. Do you use it post-blister as well, or just as a preventative measure?
If not, what are you using for blister treatment?
ChrisFeb 1, 2010 at 1:25 pm #1568612
Both preventative and active care.
At the first sensation of trouble I check things out. If a sock swap doesn't resolve it, I apply benzoin and tape, over and well beyond the trouble spot.
If it's already a blister, I do the same thing, again being careful to go well beyond the trouble spot. Sometimes things go downhill and the blister ruptures, but even so, enough of the tape stays in place that I don't need to do anything else.
I palpate for tenderness to make sure infection isn't setting in, but otherwise leave things alone until tape and skin come off. Sometimes a week or two.Feb 6, 2010 at 2:27 am #1570357
Konrad .BPL Member
I've read that its also great for treating tooth aches on the trail.
Also, cut and pasted from wikipedia:
"Tincture of benzoin has two main medical uses: as a treatment for damaged skin and as an inhalant.
It is often applied to skin before applying tape or other adhesive bandages. To some degree, it protects the skin from allergy to the adhesive in the tape or bandage, but mostly it makes the tape or bandages adhere much longer. It is also used by athletes for its reputation of toughening skin exposed to the tincture.
It can be applied to minor cuts as a styptic and antiseptic (an effect of both the benzoin and its alcohol solvent).
It is also used as an oral mucosal protectant, for recurring canker sores, fever blisters, and the like.
It can also be inhaled in steam as a treatment for various conditions including bronchitis and colds. There is some disagreement as to whether or not benzoin should be used as a treatment for asthma.
It is used in the U.S. military to treat blisters. A common treatment utilized by medics in the U.S. Army is to drain the fluid from a blister and to inject the same amount of compound tincture of benzoin, to help seal the space created by the blister, to serve as a local antiseptic, and to prevent further abrasion or loss of skin. This is commonly known as a hot shot amongst military personnel due to the burning sensation experienced. An older and ill advised method of the same name involves identical procedures using bleach as a substitute for tincture."Feb 6, 2010 at 4:51 am #1570364
John S.BPL Member
I would not put tincture of benzoin in my mouth (ingesting it), nor would I inhale it.Feb 6, 2010 at 8:45 am #1570396
Konrad .BPL Member
Yeah, thats wikipedia for you. Well i looked into it more, and the idea behind using it on toothaches is that you use a drop of it on a cotton swab. As far as inhaling it, i found an article about it from a british journal of medicine, albeit the article is from the late 1800's
The same journal mentions the benefits of using cocaine. ha
I've never used tincture of benzoin in this way.
edit. Hmmm, found this, a doc dated 2000 by a medical company, which ToB is prescribed to be mainly used as an inhalant, under main uses
but under the health hazards it writes about the dangers of inhalation and ingestion.
I've read elsewhere now that ingestion leads to GI tract complications. Use a drop on your tooth, and make sure you dont swallow? who knows???Mar 30, 2010 at 10:18 am #1592406
I just started using this for applying tape to my feet. I bought a bunch of the tinctures available at BPL at the year end sale.
When one of those capsules are broken, there is almost enough to cover both my feet, seems like a waste. Is there a way to preserve them after the capsule has been broken without getting it all over the place?
If not, where do you buy benzoin to repackage it in dropper bottles? I've only ever seen it in the capsules.Mar 30, 2010 at 10:26 am #1592409
James PatsalidesBPL Member
@jamespatsalides-comLocale: New England
Ask your local pharmacist. I found a little bottle at my Walgreen's in the first aid section. I decided to just stick with a couple of capsules in the FAK so I didn't purchase it, but, they had in a 5oz bottle that you could probably dispense into a mini dropper bottle. Nice idea.Mar 30, 2010 at 10:46 am #1592414
W I S N E R !BPL Member
I've used it in my mouth many times- it works very well for sealing and easing the pain of cuts or a canker sore.
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