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Arcteryx Alpha SL Pullover/Jacket

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Ben Smith BPL Member
PostedDec 26, 2009 at 4:02 pm

I was looking at getting a new jacket and was looking really hard at these, although I just saw the eVent jacket thread. I live and hike in 4 seasons southeast US, so what do you guys recommend?

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 26, 2009 at 5:04 pm

For me, I would have a difficult time shelling out the big bucks for a wp/b jacket — no matter how well crafted — when I know there are other options out there that are both better (meaning more breathable) and cheaper.

Ben Smith BPL Member
PostedDec 26, 2009 at 6:15 pm

I can get one of these on eBay for ~$180, and most eVent jackets are $200+, right?

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 26, 2009 at 9:09 pm

That's a pretty good discount, Ben.

But to me, I value breathability the most, then features vs. weight, then color and styling — and lastly brand name/sex appeal. For that price range, I would go for eVENT or the MontBell Peak shell without question.

We all give different weightings to the various criteria, of course.

PostedDec 26, 2009 at 9:12 pm

Ben Smith – that jacket is impeccably made. My experience with Gortex Paclite has been very positive and given this has pit zips it should be very decent in rainy / humid conditions. However, I don't sweat much so I might not be the norm. I still prefer eVENT overall but that is a great price for the Dead Bird.

David Chenault BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2009 at 9:17 am

I was fortunate enough to receive a pullover for Christmas (a bit before the 25th). I've had it out backcountry skiing a few days, and for a short dayhike in cold rain. In short, I'm just starting to get a sense of the anorak.

After the last 19 months in Montana I've decided that I want a bomber hard shell that I can live in. As contrasted with my years previous in Utah and Arizona, where my hard shell stayed in the bottom of the pack when I brought one at all. This distinction drove my desire for a different shell.

First, the cut, construction and features are immaculate. The hood construction and design is a work of art. It works well over a climbing/skiing helmet, with a pack on, or over a bare head. The pit zips are huge and vent well. I much prefer anoraks, and a big 'roo pocket for storing snacks and maps. While the front zip is short on the SL, and thus a bit harder to get on and less of an effective vent, it's length allows for a big front pocket that also stays above a hipbelt. The sleeves and hem are long and stay put while active, and the cut is roomy enough for a fat fleece or light puffy without being baggy. These features are for me the most important.

It's been a while since I've owned a G-tex shell, but I'm fairly impressed with the Paclite. It breathes much, much better than the PU shells I've had lately. You get condensation when working hard uphill, but that's the tradeoff for full storm protection. I'll still bring my Houdini in most conditions.

The factory DWR is really good, and the fabric dries very fast. Very important.

In short, I'm happy thus far. I think it will have a long service life.

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2009 at 9:27 am

I think most people would agree with the impeccable workmanship of Arcteryx products. Would be wonderful if they can update their one critical material component — the wp/b membrane itself — from Goretex to eVENT! That, and if they can keep weight to a reasonable low (I don't need a lot of bells and whistles) — I would spend the big bucks and buy one in a heartbeat!

PostedDec 27, 2009 at 9:54 am

I've got one on order. I too have started leaning towards a more weatherproof shell, rather than my series of SUL jackets.

Chris Jones BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2009 at 3:56 pm

"I was fortunate enough to receive a pullover for Christmas (a bit before the 25th). I've had it out backcountry skiing a few days, and for a short dayhike in cold rain. In short, I'm just starting to get a sense of the anorak."

David,

Just to clarify, you are referring to the Alpha SL Pullover, correct?

I will agree with the worksmanship of Arcteryx products. But my reason for sticking with the Dead Bird is that of sizing–they fit my long arm/slender body frame perfectly.

I have a Theta AR jacket which I use for skiing. It'd be perfect if it didn't have all of those pockets. To me, it doesn't make sense to go through the expense, etc. of using waterproof/breathable fabrics to only "gum up the works" with extra pockets (more layers of fabric hinder breathability). Still looking for the perfect jacket… *Sigh*

David Chenault BPL Member
PostedDec 27, 2009 at 5:06 pm

Chris,

Yes, it's the Alpha SL pullover. I'm 5'11", 160, and skinny. The sizing is indeed great (I have a medium).

The only thing I'd change is the goofy pit zip that extends all the way the hem on one side.

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