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PostedNov 25, 2009 at 10:42 pm

OK, this thread may well belong in the Winter Camping forum but I'm putting it here B/C some folks need to think seriously about this topic.

Winter boots are (usually ) insulated boots. There are two main categories of insulated boots.
1. Built-in insulation (non-removable)

3. Removable liner insulation

For me category 1. is only for day hikes (unless I count my GI Mickey Mouse boots with SEALED felt insulation that can't be soaked by sweat.)

Category 2. includes the original removable liner boots, felt packs.
It also includes my backcountry plastic Scarpa T3 ski boots W/ removable foam liner.

"THE SYSTEM"

Here's my system for warm feet all the time when winter camping:
With both types of boots one needs a Vapor Barrier liner(VBL) to keep the insulation dry and thus your feet warm.

BUT, because bringing a category 1. pair of often wet boots into your sleeping bag to keep them warm is a bit much (even in a stuff sack) I always use category 2, liner boots for winter camping.

I use thin neoprene dive socks for my VBL over thin polypro liner socks and have never needed more than that as the closed cell thin neoprene sox are very warm. I've seam sealed these sox very well, of course.

The VBLs come off at night, the wet liner sox go in a dirty clothes stuff sack & the VBL sox get turned inside out to dry and later go inside to the foot of my sleeping bag to stay warm 'til morning.

The felt or foam liners come out of the outer boots and go into the foot of my bag. (Yes, to keep every bit of moisture out of the liners you could put them in a waterprof stuff sack if you're not using a full VBL sleeping bag sack.)

I put clean polypro liner sox on and thick wool "sleeping socks" over them.

In the morning I leave my "sleeping sox" in the foot of the bag & put on the VBL and then dress fully W/ the liners still in the warm sleeping bag. Then I put the warm felt or foam liners into the respective boots and get in them right away. No bitterly and dangerously cold feet in the morning.

BTW, the outer boots get their tops "telescoped" together and kept in the tent vestibule at night. Spindrift snow in the outer boots is a no-no.

So, what system for warm feet do you use when winter camping?

PostedNov 25, 2009 at 11:30 pm

Neos over-boots with the winter insoles, and Sorel felt liners and VBL socks. I also take a spare set of felt packs, just in case the others become wet. I can use this set-to to snowshoe, although, I don't cover great distances. I lace 3/4 webbing straps under the arch of the boots and then wrap up and twice around the ankle of the boots for added support. Similar to to how a Eskimo style mukluk, would be wrapped. This is a very lightweight set-up, although, the boots are not very supportive in the ankles. But hey, some people hike in sandals too.(Summer)

PostedNov 26, 2009 at 9:32 am

I used NEOS over my dress shoes in northwestern Pennsylvania to get to my car through feet of snow to dig it out on workdays. That was the original idea for NEOS, as an overshoe.

Now I keep NEOS in the trunk of my SUV as emergency boots. They have a felt insole in the bottom, under a feltpack liner which has itself a good arch support insole. Also I keep some ripstop VBLs stufed in them.

But I'll try them snowshoing and see how it feels compared to the support I get from my Sorrell felt pacs.

PostedNov 26, 2009 at 9:46 am

I wear a size 11 shoe,and got the Neos Villager in a size large, along with the Neos insoles, which adds extra insulation underfoot, and takes up some space for a slightly snugger fit.
I bought the Sorel felt liners in a size 12 to allow for thick socks, one or even 2 pair. It can get very cold in N.Michigan.

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