Anybody notice that Snowpeak increased their double-wall line?

Amazing! A double walled cup and no lids! What is the point?

Think Asian culture– drinking from bowls, tea cups without handles, etc, etc. Step away from your tankards and beer steins!

REI offers a 4.5oz version as an espresso cup (mutter, mutter)—weighs 1oz @$25US. Another bit of trail bling.

I think I’ll copyright that:
“trail bling” copyright 2006 Dale Wambaugh.

To answer your question, the double wall is so you don’t burn your lips on the hot metal, the major downfall of the ol’ Sierra cup design.

When I get home I need to toss one of my wife’s fine china teacups on the scale– I’ll bet it’s a feather. Royal Copenhagen china for the trail me bucko’s?

I’m with Gary. The point of double wall is to keep the contents warm for longer. So what happened to the lid?

> So what happened to the lid?

Maybe they got tired of seeing them all left at home because the ultralighters kept replacing them with foil lids?

“Maybe they got tired of seeing them all left at home because the ultralighters kept replacing them with foil lids?”

Maybe… although one wonders how many ultralighters carry double wall cups?

Good answer. You can’t cook on them so what’s the point of a lid? If your tea gets too cold, you’re not drinking it fast enough!

But if you always have to drink fast, you won’t need the double wall to begin with.

Hi, Jason:

I don’t disagree with your point about lids serving no function much of the time. This particularly applies to the flat lid found on the SP Trek 700 pot (the one sold as part of a set that includes a stove and spork.)

However, some lids are quite useful and can actually justify their weight. For example, the lid on the MSR Titan pots (1.5 and 2-quart) can double as a plate, making a nice single-pot set for two people and eliminating the need for extra cups or bowls. (Although I love my Titan kettle, its lid is pretty useless as anything but a lid.)

A useful pot/mug is the smaller one from the SP Trek Combo set – I think it’s 800 or 900 ml. It has a little fry-pan lid that I actually find convenient. It lets me boil up a pot of water in the morning, put some oatmeal in the lid, add water, and toss a tea bag into the pot – a nice, hot breakfast instead of the oatmeal bar I’m stuck with when I use my Titan kettle. Does that fry pan justify its weight? Probably not, from a purely utilitarian point of view – but from the creature-comfort perspective, it’s a lot of luxury for a couple of ounces.

Hi Glen-
Actually, when I made the comment about lids I was only referring to these double-wall mugs. Since you can’t cook with them, I just don’t see the need for a lid. I always use a lid with my pots and have a Titan kettle like you.

You do if you don’t want to melt your fingerprints off!

Ah…now I understand….

Ben, is thinking of a mug with handles, thus making a dbl-wall unecessary for holding in the hands purposes. Right, Ben?

Jason, is talking of a dbl-wall cup with no/unecessary handles vs. using a sgl-wall cup with no handles (do they actually make these?).

At least, I think I understand your perspectives?

I can’t speak for Ben. You’re right from my perspective. For me, a lid is really only beneficial for cooking to help decrease boil time. For a mug with double walls, you don’t need handles and you don’t need a lid. My experience with double walls is that they keep the liquid hot enough without any type of covering. Here’s what I did with my Snowpeak double wall: http://www.freewebs.com/jasonklass/myexperimentsadventures.htm

That’s more than hot enough for me in even freezing conditions. I don’t think a lid would have made enough of a difference to justify the weight. The one time I actually would like a lid for my mug is when it’s really windy or rainy to prevent debris from landing in my coffee. I’ve been trying to find one of those plastic disposable coffee lids that would fit one of my mugs but to no avail…

Lid. Not handles.

The double wall should keep most of the heat inside… so I assume the outer wall should be cool enough to hold. If so, then handles aren’t needed at all.

But a lid would be nice.