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Beer pot + canister stove???

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Konrad . BPL Member
PostedOct 27, 2009 at 11:04 pm

Just curious to know if anyone has tried a beer pot with a canister stove. For instance, a heiny keg with a msr pocket rocket, or anything that produces a focused flame. Would the power of the canister stove be too much for the thin base of the beer pot? i.e. Would it compromise the structural integrity of the can after a few uses?

Im an alcohol stove user, but I'm thinking of picking up a canister stove. The reason I ask is because I am curious to know if I can offset the weight of a canister setup, if ever so slightly, but cutting ounces with the pot.

Thanks in advance!

PostedOct 27, 2009 at 11:44 pm

I have exactly that setup.

Generally I use the Heinekein pot with UST Wetfire Stove, however I have used it with the PR and had no issue so far.

Cheers

Laurence Beck BPL Member
PostedOct 28, 2009 at 5:58 am

Konrad/Mark,

That's thinking out of the box!

What is the volume and weight of the beer can? I know there are 24+oz beer cans out there like Foster's or Tecate but how much do they weigh?

Another question: How do you keep them from being smashed in your pack?

Larry

PostedOct 28, 2009 at 6:17 am

Hi Larry,

My Heinekein pot is 30g or 1.06oz in your language.

To keep it from being crushed is quite simple….stuff things in there e.g Socks, food, what ever you have.

Cheers
Mark

Konrad . BPL Member
PostedOct 28, 2009 at 7:09 am

I find that the heiny pots are strong enough aluminum that you dont have to worry about them being crushed. And if they do get crushed…have another beer :D

That being said, you can also store them in ziploc twist containers (which double as a bowl/mug to offset the weight) Ill upload a photo of some different variations later today

PostedOct 28, 2009 at 7:21 am

I just gave a Heiny pot a whirl on my Vargo Jet Ti and no problems… It fit well to the Vargo's pot supports and proved quite stable!

Troy Ammons BPL Member
PostedOct 28, 2009 at 7:25 am

Another option is to use a 24 oz fosters can inside a country time lemonade container. I put one wrap of extreme tape at the top for better gripping.

Very crushproof, and the lid works for measureing, the bottom is transparent and can be marked in cups. It is tough and can handle boiling h20 like for tea or coffee.

I cook in mine. IE the bag of food goes in the container, fold the edges of the bag over the outside, put the top on and let it steam. Provides some insulation. Unscrew the top and eat out of the container. Easier than eating out of a bag anyway.

Its a bit heavy, like 2.2 oz for the container but its a nice setup and nests.

I also made a similar 1 cup setup from an 8oz soda can and a tang container, and a 2 cup setup from a cut down fosters can and a heiniken can top in the short country time lemonade container.

With an alcohol stove the 3 complete cooksets less the fuel bottles weigh 3,4 and 5 oz respectively.

Hikin’ Jim BPL Member
PostedOct 28, 2009 at 4:54 pm

That being said, you can also store them in ziploc twist containers (which double as a bowl/mug to offset the weight) Ill upload a photo of some different variations later today

Interesting! Pls do post photos.

Konrad . BPL Member
PostedNov 8, 2009 at 3:49 pm

sorry it took me so long to do this. Didn't realize there was still interest. Here are some pics!

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These 2 pics show a custom beer can pot (roughly 1.75 cup capacity) from Minibull design, and the accompanying carry case. Its 1 ziploc twist n' loc container, plus 1 normal ziploc snap lid container. The twist n' loc lid has been cut out so that it serves as a lock ring. You can put the snap lid container on top of the twist n' loc container (they nest together perfectly), then use the lock ring to lock the 2 halves together, so that it serves as protective case for your pot. As mentioned it doubles as a drinking cup and small bowl for your meals. The pot is 1.3 ounces, the ziploc containers are 1.6 ounces, bringing the total kit to 2.9 ounces.

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This pic shows various configurations that can be used. You can take a larger twist n loc container, and nest it with the snaplid container (as shown in the first pic) so that you can house the larger heiny can. My heiny can weighs 1.7 ounces (with custom lid, and fiberglass wick wrapping for pot grabbing purposes), and this larger bowl/cup/case combo weighs 2.1 ounces, for a total of 3.8 ounces. The last one shows the smaller MBD pot shown earlier, but in just a larger twist n loc container, with twist lid intact. Because the twist lid is intact, is still weights a decent amount, at 1.9 ounces. The heiny can, will not fit in just a large twist n loc container, because the container tapers too much at the end.

***All twist n loc containers come with measurements on the side as well.

For Reference, my other similar setup consisting of my snowpeak 600 (without lid) weighs 2.7 ounces, and my orikaso flatware bowl weights 1.2 ounces, totaling 3.9. Seems to me that when i use the MBD setup as seen in the 2nd pic, I can get the same bowl (admittedly, a smaller one), cookpot, cup package for 1 ounce less, and is plenty durable regardless of how i pack) If im in a situation, where i dont need a cup, but need a large bowl, i can nest the smaller MBD pot into the larger twist n loc container, as seen in the 3rd pic, and still weight in at 3.2 ounces, which is still less than my titanium pot and orikaso bowl setup. If im in a situation where I dont need any cup or bowl other than the pot I cook in, i bring along my heiny pot, which doesnt need the ziploc containers for protection which is lighter than any production pot i own.

Dont get me wrong…i know titanium is way more durable, but Its hard for me to bring along my snowpeak when I know my heiny can weighs 1.7oz, and when packed carefully, is plenty durable. If i dont plan on eating out of my pot, and only need to boil water, It's hard to justify the extra weight of a titanium pot…troublesome when looking back at how much we paid for our titanium toys :D

However, this may change now that Im considering a canister stove. I'd imagine I would use a canister stove for a long distance through hike or similar. In such cases, I may worry about beer can durablity, and may opt to have peace of mind via a titanium pot. Also, I'd have the added benefit of being able to nest my fuel canisters in the titanium pot, which is something I can't do with a beer pot.

Hope this helps!

PostedNov 21, 2009 at 10:22 pm

Happy to discover this thread.

I just posted on my discovery that a Fosters can pot fits perfectly inside a 32oz Nalgene bottle if you cut the top off.

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=26102

I've seen other lighter options then the nalgene (i.e. a 1.5 Liter water bottle) but all of them seem to lack the ability to handle boiling hot water which is what drew me to the Nalgene.

I suppose tought this Ziplock container might well be able to handle boiling water as well. Not as good a fit as the nalgene, but lighter.

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