Oct 9, 2009 at 2:18 pm #1240098
@dufus934Locale: North Texas
Most of my hiking is done in Arkansas, and that is the basis of my question. I know it would not be to practical, but how large of an area would I need for a 7.5 minute topo map of arkansas? I am not real good at navigation, but I can find where I am on a map. And I can map (with a little confidence) the trail route. Anyway, I just thought it would be cool to be able to decorate a wall of the house (size permiting)with a topo of Arkansas with all the trails I've done drawn on them. Again, thank you folks, who are smart enough to do this, for saving me the time!Oct 9, 2009 at 2:24 pm #1534798
Greg MihalikBPL Member
Two inches of paper to one mile of land.
Do the math.Oct 9, 2009 at 2:41 pm #1534807
@arichardson6Locale: North East
As far as I know it is roughly 2.5 inches per mile on a 7.5 minute map.Oct 9, 2009 at 3:16 pm #1534824
Greg MihalikBPL Member
So I dug out a 15' map and it scaled 1:1, so I figure that a 7.5' map would scale at 2:1, which just goes to show…
Prompted by Andrew, I dug deeper and came up with a 7.5' map, and low and behold it scales to 2.625" to a mile.
So the wallpapering project will take a little less space than I thought.
Have you considered the TOPO State Series software from National Geographic. $100 I think. Print what you need.Oct 9, 2009 at 3:20 pm #1534827
@erdferkelLocale: S. California
If i've done the math right, you would need a rather big room. At about 926 quads at about 4 sqft per quad that's 3700 sqft. Covering an 8ft wall would take about 450 feet of wall…
Arkansas maps from DRGmapsOct 10, 2009 at 4:32 pm #1535140
@dufus934Locale: North Texas
Thanks you guys. Doesn't sound like I (or anyone) have a wall that size. May just have to keep up with it on the computer.Oct 12, 2009 at 10:55 am #1535571
@lilorphanbillyLocale: Montana, MT (Stealth Mode)
I am a map freak and have done exactly what you are wanting to do several times. The only way I have found to do it is with 1:100,000 scale rather than the 1:24,000 of a 7.5. When I lived in SW MO I believe I got the maps from either the BLM or the Forest Service. Most gov't maps are 1:100,000. Depending on your location if you have a University with a Gov't Document section they replace maps every so often and the old ones are discarded. I did this at SMSU for years and got some very good maps. Don't give up, it is very cool to sit back and see the scope and magnitude of your wandering.
billyOct 13, 2009 at 5:49 pm #1536033
Hikin’ JimBPL Member
@hikin_jimLocale: Orange County, CA, USA
Printing from a software package could be pretty pricey. The idea of using larger scale maps is probably the way to go. If you can get library or academic discards, so much the better.
If not http://store.usgs.gov has all the maps you might want. You can download pdf's of the maps for free, and then order the ones you need. You need to go to the above link, scroll down to the map locator, and then click on the map locator.
They generally carry the following scales:
1:24,000 7.5' x 7.5'
1:100,000 60' (longitude) x 30' (latitude)
1:250,000 1 degree (longitude) by 2 degrees (latitude)
I forget what the size of the paper is, but even on 1:250,000 it's going to take a lot of room to cover the whole state.
The larger maps often don't show trails.
In most areas 1:500,000 or 1:1,000,000 scale maps may be available.
I copied the following table from the USGS website. It shows all the map scales that they carry.
Series Scale 1 inch represents
Standard quadrangle size
(latitude by longitude)
Puerto Rico 7.5 minute 1:20,000 1,667 feet 200 meters 7.5 by 7.5 minute 71 7.5 minute 1:24,000 2,000 feet (exact) 240 meters 7.5 by 7.5 minute 49 to 70 7.5 minute 1:25,000 2,083 feet 250 meters 7.5 by 7.5 minute 49 to 70 7.5 by 15 minute 1:25,000 2,083 feet 250 meters 7.5 by 15 minute 98 to 140 USGS-DMA 15 minute 1:50,000 4,166 feet 500 meters 15 by 15 minute 197 to 282 15 minute* 1:62,500 1 mile 625 meters 15 by 15 minute 197 to 282 Alaska Maps 1:63,360 1 mile (exact) 633.6 meters 15 by 20 to 36 minute 207 to 281 County Maps 1:50,000 4,166 feet 500 meters County area Varies County Maps 1:100,000 1.6 miles 1 kilometer County area Varies 30 by 60 minute 1:100,000 1.6 miles 1 kilometer 30 by 60 minute 1,568 to 2,240 30 minute* 1:125,000 2 miles 1.25 kilometers 30 by 30 minute 786 to 1,124 1 degree by 2 degrees or 3 degrees 1:250,000 4 miles 2.5 kilometers 1° by 2° or 3° 4,580 to 8,669 State Maps 1:500,000 8 miles 5 kilometers State area Varies State Maps 1:1,000,000 16 miles 10 kilometers State area Varies U.S. Sectional Maps 1:2,000,000 32 miles 20 kilometers State groups Varies Antarctica Maps 1:250,000 4 miles 2.5 kilometers 1° by 3° to 15° 4,089 to 8,336 Antarctica Maps 1:500,000 8 miles 5 kilometers 2° by 7.5° 28,174 to 30,462
* Abandoned map series, but still available for ordering as black-and-white photographic
reproductions.Oct 13, 2009 at 6:05 pm #1536038
Hart –BPL Member
@backpackerchickLocale: Planet Earth
I have NOT done this but I've heard you can do something like this relatively easily with Google Earth. I suspect you could adjust the scale to accommodate the size map you desire. Does it need to be 7.5? Then have it printed at kinkos.
I don't have the time or energy to look at this now, but check out…Oct 13, 2009 at 6:25 pm #1536045
@figsterLocale: Central Arkansas
I have cyclist friends who have done something very similar. They've had Arkansas painted on a wall and paint which Arkansas roads they've hammered with different colors depending on year. The painting is very nice and highlights the parks and forests.
Nerdy and passionate – these folks have rode to Fayetteville from Little Rock.
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