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  • #1239869
    Leslie Bell
    BPL Member

    @ftsp

    Locale: New York

    I am new to backpacking and have learned a lot from reading BPL forums but would love some advise specifically for and from women backpackers.
    Currently I'm looking for advise on clothing for late fall hiking. What do you wear while hiking and what do you use in camp (temps from 30's to 50's).
    Also, what are your thoughts on creating a forum category specifically for advise and gear reviews for women.

    #1532665
    Dicentra OPW
    Member

    @dicentra

    Locale: PNW

    Layers layers layers!

    This is the max I start with, then shed down from there… A lot of it depends on the trip and weather (I'm in WA)

    short sleeved shirt
    long sleeved shirt
    fleece or down vest
    fleece jacket
    rain coat

    In camp I swap my socks out at night, so I have dry ones to sleep in. May or may not bring down booties for hanging around camp.

    I'm all for a woman's specific forum. Backpacker.com has one. :)

    #1532677
    Leslie Bell
    BPL Member

    @ftsp

    Locale: New York

    Thanks, I'll check out that forum also.

    Which is your favorite down jacket or vest?

    #1532680
    Mark Verber
    BPL Member

    @verber

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    A women's special forum sounds like a good idea.

    I am not a women, but I asked wife and my daughter for suggestions. Their choices are fairly similar to mine. I have collected my general gear recommendation. The things where they differ from me (or thought something was particularly important):

    • WARM socks, primaloft socks or down booties to sleep in. Feet get cold a lot easier than Mark.
    • Liner gloves. Stay ahead of hands getting icy cold.
    • Extra underwear
    • Insulated Air Mattress… can sleep without hips hurting
    • Good sleeping bag. My daughter likes a Montbell SS#3 down to around 30F and then adds her high loft clothing. My wife sleeps cold. She is good to 35F with a WM Versalite and then needs to add clohing

    The packs they use aren't made anymore so can be of much help there. They like a light weight frame rather than frameless even when carrying <20lbs. Finding the right torso length and an appropriate hip belt was key.

    Clothing Worn:
    Trailrunners
    Smartwool light hiker socks
    Underwear
    TNF Womens Supplex Convertible Pants
    Sports Bra
    Active-Tee
    Sunday Afternoon Hat

    Clothing Carries:
    Marmot Driclim Windshirt
    Midweight Capeline tights and ls shirt
    Extra warm socks (or booties)
    Extra trail socks
    Extra underwear
    Patagonia Micro Puff Vest (weather down to ~35F) and then switch to a Patagonia Micro Puff Parka
    If the Parka is coming typically a light fleece vest comes as well.
    PolarBuff
    Heavy Fleece hat if below 35F
    REI rain pants… when cooler and sure of rain
    DriDucks Poncho
    Mid-weight Liner Gloves

    I run hot, they tend to run slightly cool. As a result they bring 2x the insulation I typically do.

    –Mark

    #1532681
    Matt Lutz
    Member

    @citystuckhiker

    Locale: Midwest

    I'll speak for by girlfriend on this, since she is not a member of the forum.

    In general, she takes at least one more torso layer than I do.

    Head to toe:

    Head: Marmot Powerstretch hat
    Hands: Black Diamond Powerstretch gloves
    Base layers: SS Wicking shirt and LS wicking shirt or merino wool pullover; also Capilene 2 leggings
    Pants: REI convertible pants with good DWR
    Socks: Smartwool Adrenaline mini-crews (x2)
    Midlayers: Powerstretch fleece vest (if this was me, I would leave it at home – herein lies the extra layer)
    Puffy: TNF Redpoint jacket or TNF down jacket (or both)
    Hardshell: Arc'Teryx Alpha SL (GoreTex PacLite)

    Sleeping:
    Thermarest Prolite 3, short
    WM Ultralite, short (20 degree)

    Pack: Granite Gear Vapor Ki. The hipbelt was key for her. She tried on Osprey Talon 44 and a GoLite Jam2 and Pinnacle and liked the full suspension.

    We sleep in an Oware Double bivy under a CatTarp 2 or in a DoubleRainbow.

    #1533047
    Jason Klass
    BPL Member

    @jasonklass

    Locale: Colorado

    Leslie,
    You might find this website helpful too: http://traildivas.com/

    #1533995
    Diane “Piper” Soini
    BPL Member

    @sbhikes

    Locale: Santa Barbara

    I hike in late fall here in Southern California. I don't know if it's the same as where you live. Daytime temps would be around 70 and nighttime temps might be down to mid to upper 20s.

    Hiking I wear:
    – short or long sleeved knit shirt (can always roll up the – sleeves)
    – long sleeved desert shirt
    – long pants

    Insulation to add when I get cold:
    – Patagonia Houdini
    – Patagonia down sweater (can use this like an extra blanket in bed, too)
    – gloves
    – fleece hat or balaclava
    – extra dry socks for sleeping (I actually use a pair of fleece sleeves cut off a fleece sweater. I can use them as leg warmers, arm warmers or sleeping socks)

    In camp I'll act like a lizard, finding patches of sun to sit in as long as possible. Once I start feeling cold, I jump in the sack. If I get too cold it's really hard to warm up, so better to get in my sleeping bag before that happens.

    #1534118
    Elena Lee
    BPL Member

    @lenchik101

    Locale: Pacific Northwest (USA)

    I accepted Montbell UL Parka as my personal savior.

    I also worship My WM Ultralite .

    Mountain Hardware Powerstretch Zip T is a "tight" shirt.

    Good Luck!

    #1534174
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Favorite down jacket is the patagonia down sweater — there are women's sizes. I prefer an XS in the men's 1/2 zip hoody for backpacking trips. It's a bit roomy but I can pull it on over everything else including a shell when I stop for lunch. Pull the hood up. Often sleep in it too. Note: this is a very light weight insulating piece — the "shell" is a thin nylon. The fabric is delicate. Also folds into its own zip pocket making an absolutely perfect down pillow. Comes in a jacket, vest and full zip hoody for women. Have the vest and the zip hoody as well. Many other manufacturers make a similar product. Have a couple weights of the Montbell down insulating jacket — I usually where these in my daily life — they are a very simple design and look nice as normal clothes but they are certainly trail worthy. They don't have any cinches or zips — makes them lighter. Note: there is a lot of variation in women's sizing. Patagonia tends to be a little trimmer and a little shorter in the women's technical gear. Arcteryx tends to fit a smaller person better than some. Northface and Mountain Hardware tend to be longer and run larger when it comes to their technical lines. Just a few of my observations. Osprey Ladies and Deuter SL packs tend to fit me well. Also, if you are small, don't ignore the kids clothing lines — I'm 5'5" and I do well in a lot of girl's stuff. Always try men's packs as well.

    #1534175
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Where?

    #1534188
    Leslie Bell
    BPL Member

    @ftsp

    Locale: New York

    I live in NY (Brooklyn) so for now I'm hiking close to home (Catskills, Harriman, Hudson Highlands).

    Thanks everybody for all of the specific suggestions and favorite items. I like to hear how different products fit and what works together. The other websites are good resources also but I know that the focus here is lightweight.

    BTW, do any of you use down vests? I just look at them and think that they would be too warm for hiking and not warm enough for camp (because my arms would be too cold). Do they well work in combo with hoodie or fleece? The vest vs. jacket would keep the weight down.

    #1534190
    Leslie Bell
    BPL Member

    @ftsp

    Locale: New York

    Actually, I guess I should have asked when, not if, you use a down vest because I see them listed on several of the posted gear lists.

    #1534191
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    YES!

    A little partial but check this out. http://www.patagonia.com/web/us/product/womens-down-sweater-vest?p=84627-0-763

    One of my absolute faves — casual and trail. I wear it under a sweater or a fleece (Patagonia R2 maybe) usually. It's fitted but the arm holes are plenty big for movement. squishes into it's own pocket. — baseball size.

    If I'm taking a down jacket for a trip, usually don't take a vest too.

    Montbell has a similar one — think it's a bit less expensive, simpler design.

    #1534195
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Ryan, the owner of this site has written a wonderful, somewhat technical but readable book about how all this fits together from a lightweight standpoint. There is also much discussion on the subject of clothing and gear in Freedom of the Hills — a classic you will want to buy if you haven't. Both readily available on amazon.

    http://www.amazon.com/Lightweight-Backpacking-Camping-Wilderness-Equipment/dp/0974818828/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255007688&sr=8-1

    #1534200
    Sarah Kirkconnell
    BPL Member

    @sarbar

    Locale: Homesteading On An Island In The PNW

    As so many have mentioned: down! It is so warm in the cold.

    But most of all I always have a light hat and gloves that I can wear even in my tent if super cold. (And still be able to cook with them on).

    More than anything though is if you are slender and get cold easily that you bring enough easy to eat food along with small bags of sipping soups and hot drinks (keeping hydrated really helps!)

    If you are the cold type down socks are worth every dollar you spend. A down jacket completes it. I also pack a base layer for underneath for my lower half and my top.

    While many men rely on their sleeping bag to stay warm in fall/winter/spring in camp again, if you get cold it is worth the extra little weight to carry more clothing.

    #1534206
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    What is your current wardrobe for a fall hike? And how do you feel about it? Comfortable? Too cold? Too warm? There's really no one solution. Just to start things off…

    When it is 50, my preferred day walk outfit might be ultralight merino wool leggings covered by a thin nylon short. (Kiwi fashion) I like clothes I can do "gymnastics" in. I wear a neutral trail runner, light wool sock and often a very light little gaiter to keep the pebbles out (no pant leg to cover the top of my shoe). I do NOT like pants with hardware, belt loops, cargo pockets and I hate pants with zip off legs. If I do wear pants they must be very smooth around the waist, have stretch in them and a gusseted crotch. They must not leave an elastic mark on my skin. I must be able to do the splits in them. I love climbing tights and the like. I'm sure many people have a VERY different idea. On top a thin merino long sleeve half zip mock. Would bring a very thin wind jacket (wind resistant on the front and stretch material on the back) and probably that softball sized down vest in my pack. And a thin merino wool cap and merino liner gloves. I get cold especially after exerting myself.

    I don't mean that as advice for you but just to demonstrate that different girls look for different things.

    #1534210
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Ha.

    This is at the bottom of Mount Whitney in May midday after a couple days out. It was still "winter conditions" higher on the mountain. It was quite warm when this picture was taken. I do not wear sunscreen on hikes — prefer to remain covered. This isn't my usual wool but Patagonia Cap 3 long underwear. I am wearing a light traditional leather boot here since I was prepared to use crampons. I did not encounter many people dressed like me.

    #1534213
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    torres del paine

    Setting out on Torres del Paine Circuit. Climbing Tights, Windshirt.

    #1534216
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Decided 2 photos is more than enough.

    #1534305
    Leslie Bell
    BPL Member

    @ftsp

    Locale: New York

    Sarah, do you carry a thermos to keep drinks and soups warm while hiking or stop and heat up water on the way. I've thought it would be nice to have a warm drink on the trail but wondered if it would be a pain to carry a container that would keep it warm.

    I also realized very quickly on my last hike that I needed gloves and a hat (which of course I didn't have but am soon getting).

    #1534358
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    If I'm even aware of the pants, they are NOs.

    z

    #1534360
    Sarah Kirkconnell
    BPL Member

    @sarbar

    Locale: Homesteading On An Island In The PNW

    I usually heat up water as needed but in winter I will carry an insulated mug and make a big jug of tea before leaving camp. That way I can sip away :-)

    #1534363
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Do you sip as you walk?!

    #1534364
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    Underwear is probably the main difference design wise! You MUST find the PERFECT underwear. The wrong underwear is worse than no underwear.

    #1534395
    backpackerchick
    BPL Member

    @backpackerchick

    The funnels and reusable sponge tampons. I have NOT tried either. The funnel sounds potentially useful if it could enable one to use a pee bottle. The sponge kind of grosses me out.

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