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PostedSep 29, 2009 at 1:02 pm

I struggled whether to post this here or in the photography forum, but I chose here because it's probably less selective and would include discussions by the more casual as well as by the more serious photographers out there, the latter probably being more of a niche than most of us.

So the question is this:

What are the most important criteria to you when shopping for a backcountry camera?

We are faced with an increasing number of requests from our readers to review cameras in the context of "lightweight backpacking", so we're evaluating this pretty carefully. If you like, and have a little time, please feel free to read what follows, which is a draft of our proposed camera review guidelines that will be used by authors and reviewers.

Your feedback on the review guidelines is welcome, but your answer to the question above is most important.

Best,
Ryan

Backpacking Light Camera Review Guidelines
Proposed Draft 24/09/2009

Scope

This document serves two purposes:

1. To articulate what BPL's unique contribution will be in the context of camera reviews.

2. To provide a framework for (a) BPL authors/reviewers responsible for testing,reviewing, and writing camera reviews; and (b) BPL peer reviewers faced with the taskof evaluating these reviews and review ratings.

Backpacking Light and Cameras

Photography can be a major part of some peoples' walking experience, which means that the selection of a suitable camera may in practice be just as important as for any other bit of gear. But most "lightweight" walkers have different requirements compared to, say, a studio or industrial photographer; after all, we are typically walkers who carry cameras first, not photographers going into the backcountry. These guidelines outline what Backpacking Light looks for in a camera review: the focus is a bit different from that of a photography review web site. Ultimately, the point of the review is to help the walker decide why to buy one camera and not another. While a specialist camera review might focus almost exclusively on exploring and assessing all the technical features available, Backpacking Light reviews are designed to help the walker looking to purchase a camera for use in the field as part of their lightweight kit. So two things are important in such a review: to consider the camera as a tool for use in the field, and to compare the camera being reviewed with its likely market competition. Further, we must admit our own weaknesses (inability to provide uber-technical information about optics performance) and capitalize on our own strengths (reviewing gear in the context of the activity of lightweight backpacking) so that our contribution to the overall body of literature about cameras is strengthened and not diluted.

End Use

The maturation of the Internet and digital photography has resulted in dramatic changes to the work flow, post-production, and publication of photos. It's important to distinguish the needs of the casual user (e.g., posted photos as is off their cameras to a social media site; or printing snapshots from the memory card at a one hour lab), what might be considered a prosumer or journalist (e.g., post-processing photos in Photoshop and then posting them to their blog or social media site; or publishing them online or in print as news, magazine, or book journalism), and a professional gallery photographer (e.g.,one who prints large images for sale or gallery viewing; or creates coffee table books). Backpacking Light does not have the expertise, nor the audience, to meaningfully address the latter category, so our reviews will focus primarily upon identifying the strengths of cameras that meet the first two categories of users.

Mission Review

Recall that the Backpacking Light Mission is:"To promote multi-day, backcountry, self-sufficient travel in a lightweight style."

Out of this mission comes the drive to assess products that provide exceptional performance at minimum weight. Because the only thing that matters is the quality of the image in the end, after the trip, there is no need to distinguish classes of cameras by type or size, or otherwise assess "performance to weight ratios". We are looking for the lightest camera that can do the job. Consequently, we can identify three important classes of review criteria for cameras

1. Image Quality

Just as a "shelter" must "keep you dry in the rain" so too must a camera be able to produce "beautiful images". None of us would be willing to tote around an extra 8 or 16 or 24 ounces of camera gear if the end result included images not worth sharing because they lacked the ability to convey the inspiration of the wild place you visited.

The number of cameras today that can produce exceptional images in the hands of moderately-experienced photographers with minor post-processing is extremely high. Consequently, the number of cameras suitable for exceptional web publishing and print journalism is no longer limited to large and bulky single lens reflex cameras. Nevertheless, a camera that is incapable of producing a quality image for the web or small prints should not be graded at the highest levels, even if it meets exceptional standards in the other criteria categories identified below. Likewise, a camera capable of producing exceptional images but not able to meet basic expectations of criteria outlined below may not be the most appropriate tool for the lightweight backpacker. In addition, because the perception of image quality lies primarily in the photographer's ability to capture, post-process, and present the image to their audience, we should be quite cautious about assessing a camera's image quality in lieu of praising the photographic skills of the eyes, and hands, in control of the camera and its images. After all, it's been said that a bad camera in the hands of a good photographer will always produce more presentable images than a good camera in the hands of a bad photographer.

2. Reliability and Accessibility

The criteria that are most unique for outdoor photography in remote environments, and directly tied to the Backpacking Light Mission are these:

1. Weight
2. Compactness
3. Weather Resistance
4. Ruggedness
5. Ease of use
6. Battery life and weight

If any one of these criteria is not met, then a photographic opportunity may be lost (e.g., one is more likely to keep a non-rain-resistant camera inside a pack during badweather). We generally believe that the most appropriate camera for the lightweight backpacker is one that will be light weight, fit in a pocket, be rainproof and shock resistant, simple to use, and have a long battery life.

3. Versatility

These criteria are those criteria that contribute to versatility and further reliability in the field, but are not necessarily directly tied to the Backpacking Light Mission.

1. Low light performance (e.g., wide aperture, good noise control at high ISO,image stabilization)
2. Zoom range (e.g., including macro, wide angle, and telephoto performance)
3. Viewfinder and LCD options
4. Video options

4. Value

An assessment of the camera's cost is a critical component of its value. The cost and complexity of accessories should also be evaluated. For example, if one camera provides rugged, all-weather protection and a built in zoom lens, and can be stowed inside a pocket, while another requires a padded weatherproof case and multiple lenses, yet both can produce similar quality images, then value becomes important. Value should always be assessed in terms of the three previous critieria: image quality, reliability and accessibility, and versatility.

Criteria for Recommended and Highly Recommended Ratings

Any camera proposed for a Recommended or Highly Recommended rating must be evaluated for image quality, described above. At minimum, the camera must be capable of producing quality images that can be published as high resolution photographs on the Web. Further, any camera proposed for a Highly Recommended rating should be evaluated in the context of the criteria for reliability and accessibility, which tie directly into the Backpacking Light Mission Statement:

• Weight and compactness – can the camera comfortably be carried in a pocket orshoulder strap pouch?

• Weather resistance – can the camera be used in the rain? will it resistcondensation on inner surfaces after being in your pocket?

• Ruggedness – is the camera well built and durable? is it shock resistant? is itdust, sand, dirt, mud-resistant?

• Ease of use – how fast can you snap a photo from the time you turn it one? howeasy is it to change modes and key settings?

• Battery life – do the batteries offer good power:weight density relative to others? how many batteries will you need to take for a weeklong trip?

Disclaimer

This document identifies how Backpacking Light can contribute uniquely to the large body of camera reviews. It makes no distinction whatsoever to "camera classes" (e.g.,P&S, RF, SLR). In fact, we purposefully ignore "classes" because the bottom line is this: did you get the image, and did it look good? While we do review other "classes" of gear (e.g., shelters: double wall tents, single wall tents, tarps, etc.), cameras are unique because they do not affect your well-being out in the field so much as they are intended to capture moments enjoyed after you return home.

John S. BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 1:35 pm

I'm a casual user, currently using a Pentax Optio WPi.

1. Weather resistance/Ruggedness
2. Weight/Compactness
3. Image quality
4. Versatility
5. Value
6. Battery life and weight
7. Ease of use

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 2:38 pm

Waterproof/Rainproof (It rains a lot here in the SE and I don't want to have to worry about ruining my camera)
Toughness (what if I drop it on a rock)
Lightweight (of course)
Compact (of course)
Battery Life (I have had bad luck with AA's so I prefer proprietary batteries for trips one week long and less)
Image Quality (most modern cameras are decent)
Zoom (seems to be at odds with the Waterproof requirement)
Ease of Use (can I use it with gloves on?)
Value (I will pay for the right product, but to a point)

I currently use a Olympus Stylus 720SW, which has its flaws, but seemed to be the best for my uses when I bought it, and I just cant kill it.

PostedSep 29, 2009 at 3:51 pm

I normally use my smartphone, so for me the #1 criteria is "dual use" (or rather "multiple use").

If I do take a stand-alone camera, I like my Kodak Easyshare v570 dual lense — it's a fairly small and light (145g, 5.1 oz) point-and-shoot camera that has two lenses. There's a normal lense, and also a sort of built-in wide-angle lense. It's fairly seamless to zoom in or out from one lense to the other, and on-camera stitching software works well to create on-the-fly panoramas.

Bottom line is that when the scenery seems to stretch as far and *wide* as the eye can see, I like a camera that takes more than a postage-stamp sized subset of what I'm seeing. But I don't want the weight and complexity and cost of a full-up "I'm a serious camera kind of guy" piece of gear.

Battery *type* is a key issue as well, or in some circumstances it can be. All things being equal I like cameras that take AA batteries (though my Kodak does not), for longer trips where recharging is either difficult or impossible but resupply at a small store is an option.

For some people, a real view finder is an issue in bright sunlight; I think this is more personal preference, but it's a factor.

Having the *right* set of controls in the form of on-body buttons or other physical controls is important, vs. having to navigate through menus. Turning on and off the flash is an example of something that IMO should be easy to do without menu navigation.

Performance in cold weather is a factor, which relates to battery type/life.

How long it takes for the camera to "start up" and how long you wait between shots is a potential factor for some.

I think the way in which a person is using a camera can a significant factor — mostly scenery, or more aimed at wildlife? Mostly bright daylight, or including low-light situations?

Dondo . BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Great post, Ryan. You've obviously put a lot of thought into the criteria for the reviews. I wouldn't change anything. So when do we get a review of the E-P1? And while we're at it, how about the GF1?

Mary D BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 5:49 pm

A viewfinder, with the option to turn off the LCD screen to save batteries. This is the feature I like most about my current camera (Canon A710IS). Most LCD screens seem to be useless in bright sunlight. With the LCD screen on, I can use up a set of batteries in just a few hours in a wildflower meadow! With the LCD screen off, I have plenty of battery left after a week of taking lots of pictures.

Light weight, like 5-6 oz. with batteries. Mine was advertised at 7 oz. with batteries, but it's actually 9 1/2 oz.

28-200 mm zoom lens. Mine goes up to 200 but the low end is 35mm.

Good macro feature–another thing I really like about mine.

Can use lithium batteries. That's another thing I didn't find out until after buying the camera!

Shock resistant and rain resistant. I don't insist on waterproof because I can put it in a ziplock bag, but it should resist some moisture, like spray from waterfalls or a light drizzle. I haven't had any trouble with mine yet.

Fast, so I can turn it on and snap a picture immediately without waiting for it to do whatever it does between my pushing the button and the shutter actually going off. This pause is most annoying when wildlife appears–the animal often disappears in the meantime! Yes, I can reset it to the children/pets feature, but that takes time and the instruction book, which I prefer not to haul along.

Can take a filter for high-altitude mountain pictures. Mine doesn't unless I remove the lens and replace it with another one, which I really don't want to do.

I know I'm asking for the moon here! If there is such a camera, please let me know!

PostedSep 29, 2009 at 6:04 pm

Excellent thread. I have been enjoying this site for more than a year, but only last week under "Off Piste" and "Photography" in the Forum did I discover that section. There are some amazing pictures there with lots of info about cameras. Be sure to check it out. NB JMT recent posts. There is software you can add to an SD card and download it into many cameras to expand their features.

Jay Wilkerson BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 6:35 pm

I really love to take pictures (And Post Them) but I do not want it to be complicated at all!! (Keep it simple stupid)

I like:
Weight- 1st
Compactness
Easy Auto Mode
Battery Life
Just enough Zoom

I have posted many pictures on website and all where taken with two cameras:

Nikon CoolPix=5.7oz w/ batteries
Olympus D-435=5.2oz w/ batteries

I have taken the majority of my shots with the Olympus but lately have gone to the Nikon because of better zoom capability.

A picture says a thousand words!?!?!?

te – wa BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 6:42 pm

first i wanted AA batteries, as they can be found anywhere.
then i wanted light weight.
followed by manual functions and ability to compose better images.
then lastly, compactness..
for that reason i purchased the ol' favorite Canon A590is

ive found that there was one equation that i had left out and that was a high telephoto power (well, high for a p&s) since i like to capture bighorns and other distant, elusive animals. I do love the macro shots too tho..

i just purchased one of the Lumix line, the ZS3 and judging by it's profile, and stats, its the best in its class.
the 12x zoom should be my close friend..
i had to give up AA batts for some other important features, but i got a smaller frame out of the deal.
Im curious to try out the iA (intelligent macro) setting that others are fond of.
Lastly, the lumix zs3 has HD video with true Optical zoom while filming. wow.

anybody have this one? like it?

Ross Bleakney BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 6:48 pm

This is a backpacking light website, so I think the key is balance. What is the best camera you can get for the weight. There are plenty of websites (and publications) that are geared towards outdoor photography, but few of them place high priority on weight. So, I would basically rank them:

1. Weight
2. Image quality
3. Versatility — This includes (in my mind) having wide angle, good zoom capabilities and weather resistance (you can take more pictures with a waterproof camera).
4.Battery life and weight — (no sense carrying a light camera if you have extra ounces of batteries for a long backpack).
5. Ruggedness — Relatively low priority. It is nice to have (obviously) but we are ultralighters and we are used to babying our stuff to save a few ounces.
6. Ease of use
7. Value — Again, this is a consideration, but as ultralighters we may decide to spend the extra bucks to get extra performance (e. g. Cuben Fiber). I know I certainly would.

PostedSep 29, 2009 at 8:01 pm

Random observations…
High Quality (Picture) and waterproof/rain proof designs are, at the moment, at odds with each other.
Apart from the fixed (non zoom) lens, all of the weatherised cameras relay on the folded optics design. That means the zoom is internal , travelling sideways and using a prism to capture the image at a right angle. This requires a small optical block with an equally small sensor.
The major problem otherwise is keeping the lens from pumping in water when retracting.
Note that many are happy with the folded optic type (I use one…) but they are not at the "high end" of IQ (Image Quality)

Most cameras that use AA batteries can now use the Lithium (Energisers,disposable) but there are no Li Ion (rechargeable) around the standard AA voltage (1.5) . The 14500 Li Ion are 3.8v , not usable in any camera , yet.

A good alternative to the disposable AA Lithium, particularly for longer hikes (with supplying stops) or cold weather, are the Sanyo Eneloop.
I took more than 400 shots over two months (zooming, VF on and using the flash every 3rd shot) in a Canon (2x AA)

Most LCDs can be fitted with a foldable hood. That will help in full sun.
http://www.shopping.com/xPO-Delkin-Delkin-E-Film-Pop-Up-Shade-3-Camera-Hood

An Optical View Finder for a longer zoom (5x plus) is not practical to build into a compact camera. (expensive)

Quick start. Some cameras can be started on a pre-set (ie pets) or several other modes like P/A .

Filters . Many cameras can use the Cokin Digi Magnetic Holders. See compatibility chart here :
http://www.cokin.fr/ico15-B.html
Franco
BTW, this post is a bit off track but it is meant to offer some solutions so as to allow the inclusion of some cameras that have perceived "problems"

Jouni Leppanen BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 8:05 pm

I am currently using Sigma DP-1 with Voighlander 28 mm VF.
Voghtlander's VF is much brighter than Sigma's own VF and VF I believe it is essential in bright daylight.
Pros: image quolity is top (big sensor size), relatively light(compered to my DSLR, build quality is high(made in Japan)
Cons: battery life could be better, high ISO image quolity poor, focus can be slow and difficult.
Conclusion: image quolity is what really matters to me and this is best I have tried that I feel I can and will carry to bushwalks. I am keen to read in depth review of EP1 even thought lack of VF is of concern.There are couple of other interesting compact cameras from Leica and Panasonic which I think was reviewed here at BPL, but camera with such a small sensor size ??? I know what you are thinking, size is not everything, with cameras IT IS!!
Cheers

te – wa BPL Member
PostedSep 29, 2009 at 9:09 pm

i agree franco: the eneloop mAh 1.2v are amazing batteries. they would last (for me) a good 3X the length of a standard alkaline AA

unfortunately, the lumix zs3 requires the stock li and replacements are $40 usd (ouch)

PostedSep 29, 2009 at 10:53 pm

I look for waterproofness in a small size that shoots wide HD video and stills.

Would like a widest (possible) angle lens that's not fish-eyed and that records sound well.

Something whose LCD display lasts more than a year and a half.

Gordon Smith BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 12:49 am

I'm a serious amateur photographer, so my list is likely upside down compared to most:

1) Image Quality – I'm not just talking megapixels here, in fact 6MP would be ample. I'm more concerned with things like good dynamic range, mimimal noise at high ISO and minimal chromatic aberation.

2) Versatility – Good zoom range (28-200mm in 35mm equivalent as a minimum), good low-light performance, good image stabilization, ability to easily use filters. I want a camera/lens combo that is useful in a wide variety of shooting situations from wildlife to macro to landscape.

3) Quick – Fast power up, fast auto-focus, minimal shutter lag.

4) Bright, optical viewfinder, not LED screen.

5) Durable, dust resistant, somewhat weather resistant (light mist no problem).

6) Good battery life.

7) Compact and light weight.

My current backcountry camera, a Nikon D80 with 2 lenses, meets most of these criteria and exceeds some, but weighs in at over 4 lbs, a weight penalty I don't enjoy but am willing to pay for the image quality I get in return.

G

PostedSep 30, 2009 at 8:46 am

I'll echo what has already been said, but add that being able to shoot RAW is important to me.

Mark Regalia BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 8:55 am

I am a dSLR user but sometimes use a smaller camera. Most small cameras don't go wide enough in my opinion. I think 28mm equivalent is very important. I am huge fan of view finders which are getting rarer. Three reasons, the biggest one is that being safely over 40 I have to use reading glasses to see an LCD clearly, big hassle there. The second is that LCDs get washed out and third is the power useage. There is another reason. When you use an LCD the camera is going shake a lot more because you have to hold it out from you. That makes stabilizer almost a necessity. So optical viewfinder is a must have.

I use to believe in AA batteries but the current cameras are so incredibly efficient that just carrying one extra, almost weightless battery will allow shooting many hundreds of photos. AAs are big and require the camera to be much larger.

Weatherized would be nice, but not if it means sacrificing zoom, size, weight or other important features.

Tony Wong BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 9:48 am

I just recently replaced my six year oldCanon Powershot S230, which is a 3.2 megapixel camera with a 2.0x optical zoom. I loved the camera, but had to replace it because it was breaking down and becoming unreliable.

I replaced it with another Canon, the 880IS, which is a 10 megapixel camera with 4.0x optical zoom.

With the newer camera, I did not care about higher mega pixels, more optical zoom, or the bigger LCD- which is a power waster in my opinion.

Things that I looked for and wanted:

1. Small, like my old camera
2. Wide Angle Lens
3. Ability to take panoramic shots
4. Ability to take good/decent video clips
5. Better battery life (more than 280 shots per battery)
6. Lighter Weight (S230 was 9 oz w/battery & metal body)
7. Improved Internal Software to deal w/lighting conditions

The Canon 880IS let all of these requirements.

I love the wide angle lens to capture more of the landscapes in one shot than my old standard lens.

Panoramic photos are a great way for me to try to capture huge views that can convey the size and scope of something that a single shot can not do.

Video clips adds an unique context to the still photos by giving me sound and movement to capture more of the moment.

One of the best things that I have found is that battery time is so much better with the new camera. I can get about 600-700 or more shots from one battery! Previously, I would get maybe 280 with a 1 oz battery, which meant that I was often taking about 1 lb in camera and extra batteries. Now I can get away with just taking one or two batteries per trip for multiple days vs. one battery per day. As an example on my recent Tahoe Rim Trail, I took some 1750 shots in 9 days and only used 2 batteries.

Lastly, I have been very pleasantly surprised how much I have appreciated having a 4.0x optical zoom vs. my old 2.0x, which has allowed me to get "closer" shots than I would have in the past.

-Tony

PostedSep 30, 2009 at 10:05 am

For backpacking, perhaps more than anything else, I appreciate time.

The time it takes to get at the camera, the time it takes the camera to boot, the time it takes between pushing the button and having the shutter activate, and the time delay between shots.

Elena Lee BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 10:31 am

Hi Ryan, thank you for the question.

I think the camera should be reviewed mainly on what it is supposed to do: take high quality landscape shots with the minimum weight possible to achieve the desired quality.

The question of "desired quality" remains open for different users. Personally speaking, when defining "quality" , my goal is to achieve similar results to a DSLR without the weight of the DSLR. From this perspective, the "quality" question lies within the following dimensions:

1. image sensor/lens/processor combo (also .. how well does the camera operate in low light conditions since the best outside photography shots happen within a tiny 30 minute window of sunrise/sunset? how well can you shoot at lower ISO?)
2. wide angle (24 mm equivalent would be nice) – very important for image composition!!!)
3. RAW format capability
4. Shutter speed/aperture priority modes

outside of this the only thing i'd like to know is battery life. all other "physical" considerations (if your primary goal is to take outstanding images), in my opinion, are secondary.

If your primary goal is just to take those "memory shots", then all the physical characteristics that DO NOT contribute to image quality become more important.

So have you considered your review from two different perspectives?

Perspective A: user who is mostly concerned about image quality and would like to minimize weight for the best quality ("photographic art focus")

Perspective B: user who just takes "memory shots", wants reasonable quality (but doesn't care for professional-like photography), whose goal is to minimize weight, maximize functionality, while achieving reasonable image quality ("gear focus")

Those are two distinct target consumer groups , in my opinion, and should be addressed separately.

I would definitely like to see a review for Panasonic Lumix series (LX3 for instance).

Elena Lee BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 11:01 am

Wow, Rick, are you the Ginnie from a Bottle?

This is THE CAMERA I WANT!!!!

So now what kind of fundraising events do you recommend in order for me to afford one? ::))

Rick Dreher BPL Member
PostedSep 30, 2009 at 11:18 am

Gosh Elena, I don't know any magical fundraising tricks but an obviously erudite and worthy person such as yourself will surely find a way. As an additional suggestion, learn the ins and outs of *finding* them in stock once you've held your bake sale. Panny has had a devilishly hard time keeping the LX3 supply train going, especially the black ones for whatever reason.

The 1001 Noisy Cameras blog is my favorite resource for tracking camera deals and who has what. They're quite up on the LX3 supply thing.

http://www.1001noisycameras.com/

Cheers,

Rick

PostedSep 30, 2009 at 12:02 pm

1) zoom
2) rechargeable battery
3) megapixels
4) weight

I'm a bit of a photo junkie but I refuse to carry an SLR. So, I carry a high end point and shoot.

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