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    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    What are the best shell gloves to fit these criteria?

    * lightweight
    * go over eg possumdown gloves for warmth
    * wind and waterproof
    * durable

    #1350672
    Ryan Faulkner
    BPL Member

    @ryanf

    Well, I think BMW is going to come out with some eVENT rain mitts. But for now, the only shell mittens I know of are the montbell Dry-Tec® over mittens

    But you may be able to find some old 1oz outdoor research rain mitts on ebay

    #1350673
    Anonymous
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    #1350683
    Mark Verber
    BPL Member

    @verber

    Locale: San Francisco Bay Area

    Another option might be the REI Taped Mitten. No personal experience so I can’t say they are good or bad.

    –mark

    #1350687
    paul johnson
    Member

    @pj

    Locale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest

    Mark, I have a pair of those mittens you mentioned. Only part-way through one winter’s use. They seem to be top-quality. A bit on the heavy side due to the “bells and whistles”, viz. adjustable loops to attach them to your wrists or forearms so that you can take them off without dropping them; one-hand easy cinch and release pulls to tighten and loosen the gauntlets; wrist-straps to seal off the hand proper from the gauntlet. I suppose some of these extras could be removed to lighten them, but the mitten might not be as functional (i.e., seal as tightly) without them.

    As far as performance:
    hands stay dry (from outside moisture) and warm – especially if liners are worn. I’ve worn them in the mid-teens with PossumDown liner gloves (the ones sold on this website) and my hands have felt a bit cool, but not real cold. In other words, my hands could tell that it was cold out, but were not cold themselves. Sometimes, if not using my hands, I could wish that they were a bit warmer at these temps, but I didn’t feel the need to place my mittened hands under my armpits to warm them.

    Some feel is retained when wearing them, but not much, especially if liner gloves are worn under them. If you wear them for a while and use your hands a bit, things can get a bit moist inside, but I haven’t had sweat puddles rolling around inside when my arms swing. Sorry I can’t be more precise in my description. Hope this info helps some.

    The material used on the palms seem rather robust, but I’m sure that climbing/scrambling up rough rocks while wearing them will soon wear holes through the palms or tips of the mittens.

    In part, perhaps, because of the robust palm material, these mittens do not compact down real well. Don’t misunderstand, they aren’t exactly bulky, but you’re not going to compress these greatly, since they are uninsulated.

    For the price, $45, IIRC, I feel that they are a good value for a feature-rich uninsulated water-proof mitten/gauntlet.

    #1350786
    Al Shaver
    BPL Member

    @al_t-tude

    Locale: High Sierra and CA Central Coast

    Outdoor Research Talus WPB Mitts weigh 1/2 of Montbells @ 2.8oz./pair size med. and have taped seams. A bit pricy @ $60. I got mine on sale for $40.

    #1350791
    paul johnson
    Member

    @pj

    Locale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest

    Al, have they discontinued the OR mitts you mentioned? Went to the OR website (now updated for ’06) and could not find them. Searched for “Talus” also and drew a blank. The weight you mentioned makes them very attractive.

    #1350796
    cary bertoncini
    Spectator

    @cbert

    Locale: N. California

    I know someone is selling these – forget which website I recently saw them on (Lynne Whelen?)

    #1350803
    D G
    Spectator

    @dang

    Locale: Pacific Northwet

    I bought some of the talus mitts earlier this year on closout for under $20, so perhaps they have been discontinued.

    I also have a pair of the “famous” discontinued OR rain mits that weigh about 1.0 oz. I don’t really like them since (at least the pair I have) has a tight elastic wrist section that is very tight and uncomfortable. I don’t understand their popularity. I would have much prefered a drawstring type closure for the wrist.

    So I only take these gloves for “just in case” conditions where I don’t think I’ll need them, and use the heavier talus mits when I think I’ll actually be using them.

    Dan

    #1350855
    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    Oh, another preference – I’d rather have fingered gloves than mitts, for manipulability’s sake.

    #1350856
    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    And: any comment on using SealSkinz in this capacity?

    #1350857
    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    How do you seal seams on gloves? Not the same stuff as for tents and such, I’d imagine…

    #1350859
    paul johnson
    Member

    @pj

    Locale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest

    The shell gloves and mitts I have don’t require any seam sealing. They are waterproof as purchased.

    #1350860
    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    Paul – was in ref. to the anon poster’s suggestion.

    #1350862
    paul johnson
    Member

    @pj

    Locale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest

    Priviet, Ilya, a thousand apologies. I was very unobservant and didn’t notice that you were replying to Anon. BTW, I enjoy reading your posts and appreciate your contributions to the Forums.

    #1350863
    Sai
    Member

    @saizai

    *laugh* Apologies unnecessary. And I’ve hardly been posting here since I was trying to figure out my overall pack stuff.

    Paul – how much do the REI mitts weigh? Website doesn’t say.

    Anyone have experience with Trek Mates Paclite Mitts? 2.2oz is quite acceptable for waterproofing.

    A related question: anything better than the PossumDown gloves as a light, warm (maybe wind/water resistant?) liner?

    #1350867
    paul johnson
    Member

    @pj

    Locale: LazyBoy in my Den - miss the forest

    Weight = ~4.5oz (127.5gm) See my prev. post on these mitts about the potential for “lightening” them.

    As to the PD gloves and other liners: I also use Smartwool liner gloves. Often, for temps in the upper teens and twenties, I layer them with the PD gloves. The thinner Smartwool liners inside of my normal size PD gloves. I’ve toyed with the idea of getting another pair of PD gloves one or two sizes larger and placing them over the PD gloves, but I haven’t tried that yet. I’d also like to try to use a larger Smartwool line on the outside of the PD gloves as an attempt to protect the slightly more delicate PD gloves.

    My PD gloves are on their second year and are holding up, though a small spot on the right palm is just starting to get a little thinner – it’s not “see-thru” yet, but I can see a “wear” spot forming.

    #1350942
    David Olsen
    Spectator

    @oware

    Locale: Steptoe Butte

    I often take overmitts because they fit over anything. I would like to find some shell gloves that
    are waterproof/breathable too for skiing.

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