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Caldera Cone and Pot Size Question

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PostedJul 13, 2009 at 4:24 pm

I have a Caldera Cone for my Evernew 900 ml "wide" pot…and I really like the convenience and efficiency of the system. The cone fits into the plastic screw top carrier that is 4 inches (more or less) in diameter. My Evernew pot is almost 6 inches in diameter, so there's a lot of wiggle room when I'm trying to pack my bag, wasted space actually between the pot and the packed caldera cone.

I'm wondering if switching to the TALL Evernew 900 ml pot will enable a Caldera Cone plastic screw-top carrier (in a sil-nylon bag with the reflectix cozy (cozy for the carrier, not the pot)) to fit "snugly" inside the pot.

Does anyone have first hand experience with this combination?

PostedJul 13, 2009 at 5:40 pm

I have a MLD 850ml mug,(3.75" in dia. X 4.62" tall) and the Caldera Cone sticks out of the pot by 3.5"

You can then either place the larger bottom plastic tube over the cone to protect it and then use this as a bowl or drinking container.

Make sure you ask for a 7'x10" stuff-sack(Green) and everything will then fit inside the sack.
You also have the option to use the smaller top half of the tube case, but this doesn't cover as much of the cone.
The Reflectix can be left on the tube as well, and still fits into the Stuff sack. Just tell AGG what you'd like to have, and they should be able to give you what you need.

If you want the lightest most compact Caldera Cone system, the GVP Fosters can Esbit system is the way to go.
The Caldera Cone and Gram Cracker stove will both fit inside the Foster's can.

This system complete, along with a long handled Ti spoon, cozy, and 6 Esbit tabs, in a small Aloksac weighs in at 9.1 oz. including stuff-sack.
This would be used for a 3 day weekend type trip, figuring for one Esbit for Friday night, two for Saturday, and one for Sunday, this still leaves you with two extra tabs, should you stay over on Sunday night and into Monday morning, or gives you the option of two extra tabs for hot lunches?

Here's a link below for pictures:
http://outdoors.webshots.com/album/573507538FKRfFY

Ron Bell / MLD BPL Member
PostedJul 13, 2009 at 6:43 pm

The Caldera folks are working on a shorter one that will fit inside the MLD 850ml 3oz Ti pot – one of the few pots that are tall enough with the handles at the right spot)

I talked to them about at the idea TrailDays – I've been using my own DYI version for years.

The Caldera crew make really great products.

PostedJul 14, 2009 at 5:08 pm

I've been in an extended email exchange with George Andrews at AntiGravity Gear to determine the pot size choices to fit the Caldera Cone Caddy snugly so as to better address my desire for a compact packing solution.

He suggested three solutions, two of which he recommend more strongly. I've ordered one of those solutions and will reveal all once it arrives in the next few days(with photographs!).

RE: The Ron Bell/MLD 850 ml cup, the cone for that is/was/might be(?) the two part cone (the "fissure" I think) that hasn't really seen the full marketing light of day. I think Roleigh Martin had one he sold on BPL not too many weeks ago, but I don't remember what size pot it would fit. I'm speculating here without any real knowledge of the Trail Designs "skunk worx" for R&D!!!

PostedJul 21, 2009 at 5:32 pm

Blanket statement= I love my Caldera Cone stove system. Simple, convenient, effective.

What I didn't like was the packing of my Evernew 900ml "wide" pot with the Caldera Cone caddy/bag. The pot lid and pot wouldn't fit in the bag sized for the caddy and there was "slop" (aka extra room) in the pot as a base for the caddy in my pack. After several emails with George Andrews at AntiGravity Gear, he recommended two solutions for the same size pot…the Evernew 900ml "tall" pot or the MSR Titan Kettle. The Evernew he carries, the MSR he doesn't.

I ordered the Evernew tall pot with the appropriately sized Caldera Cone. You can see in the comparison pictures below that the "tall" pot combo is taller (doh!), but a much better fit (inside the green bag) for ease of packing. I'm happy with the solution, and I praise George for his patience and willingness to try differing combinations from his inventory to get a snug fit with pot/caddy/cozy.Pot 1

Pot 2

Pot 3

PostedJul 21, 2009 at 6:09 pm

George sewed that green sack up to specifically fit the pot/cozy/caddy combination! He's the best!!!

PostedJul 21, 2009 at 6:20 pm

If you've never tried Esbit you should look into the GVP Caldera Cone. Cone and Gram Cracker stove both fit into the mug/Fosters can. I pretty much use Esbit for all of my trips, other than cold winter trips.

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