Feb 8, 2006 at 10:53 am #1217730
@mitchellkeilLocale: Deep in the OC
Firstly, I want to comment that these little bottles are excellent for storing “most” fluids in the smallest and most convenient fashion possible. BUT, do not store bleach in them. I have always carried a small amount of bleach as a disinfectant. I use 5-7 drops in a about a quart of water to do a final rinse on my eating utensils, cup or bowl and pot. Learned this little trick on Sierra Club trek years ago. So, thought that these little bottles would be a great solution to the problem of find a small storage vial. WRONG! The bleach eats right through the plastic cap and over time — about a month — you end up with bleach leaking out and damaging anything it contacts especially nylon. So, I had to replace several stuff sacks that came in contact with the stuff. SO be warned — don’t store bleach in these little wonders. I am sure that there are other caustic liquids that are equally a problem. Wish I knew what they were.Feb 8, 2006 at 11:33 am #1350163
Sorry to hear about your “educational experience” with liquid bleach.
Our Target store sells one pound bags of powdered chlorine “shock tratment” for swimming pools. A little bit of that powder in water makes a potent chlorine rinse. I haven’t measured, sorry.
For our scouts we store it the nalgene bottles that have gasketed caps and repackage it for use into the smallest nalgene bottles that have gasketed caps (approx 2oz).
For an adult crew you could get by with a less bomb proof container. Maybe one of BPL’s smaller HD ziplocks.Feb 8, 2006 at 6:07 pm #1350201
@mitchellkeilLocale: Deep in the OC
Great Idea — never thought of that. Thanks for info.Feb 18, 2014 at 7:10 am #2074654
"The bleach eats right through the plastic cap and over time — about a month — you end up with bleach leaking out and damaging anything it"
Anyone had a source for 2 oz dropper bottles good for corrosives?
thx!Feb 18, 2014 at 8:35 pm #2074942
@scottbentzLocale: Southern California
Well, considering that bleach usually comes in plastic bottles it just means you need to match the micro drop bottle to the correct type of plastic; if they do exist in that size.Feb 18, 2014 at 8:52 pm #2074948
I don’t think you read the post? The bottles are fine (HDPE), it’s the caps that break down (3 in the last year).
Thanks anyhow,Feb 18, 2014 at 9:09 pm #2074956
@glenn64Locale: Snowhere, MN
I've never bought any, was just lucky enough to get a bunch of sample size eye drops when I got brass in my eye. They look a lot like the pictures online, and they fit inside the cap of my sawyer or platy bags for storage, if that's any indication to size comparison. I kept bleach in one all year last year without any cap problems, so it must be different. Is there a brand name to avoid or something?
I actually am repurposing them yet again for aqua mira this time. Although I haven't figured out the drop size yet, as these micro droppers have smaller droplet sizes than something like an aqua mira bottle.Feb 20, 2014 at 6:48 am #2075368
A common use of Polystyrene (PS) marked w/ code 6, is bottle caps. Chemical Resistance of PS is “Semi”.
For Chlorine storage cap should be Polypropylene (PP) code 5, Chemical Resistance of PP is “Good”, same as HDPE code 4.
Here’s all the info:
Under menu click “Closures” look at Dispensing Caps & Droppers in PP and HDPE
Look at the illustrations; you probably all ready have the correct caps.
How “GET ON THE TRAIL”
AZT Challenge 43 = 7.5
P.S. It’s odd that the 1st instructional step for Aquamira is: “1 ' Prior to treatment clean and disinfect the water storage container and lid”.
A lot of $ money for 2% Chlorine Dioxide and 98% “other”; that’s some high profits!Feb 21, 2014 at 9:55 am #2075723
@bzhayesLocale: So. California
Good info Pops, but I never see the code on the cap. It is almost always printed on the bottle, but there doesn't seem to be enough real estate for them to print it on the cap. Any good way to figure out what the cap is made from?Feb 21, 2014 at 9:57 am #2075725
@tracedefLocale: Southern California
This is some good info … I would have never in a million years considered cap failure ……Feb 21, 2014 at 10:11 am #2075729
@andysLocale: Midwest USA
If you want to distinguish PP and PS, acetone (nail polish remover) will pretty much leave the PP alone and eat the PS quickly. Try a drop with a Q-tip and see if it becomes sticky.
Acetone will also attack PE, but not like it will PS.Feb 21, 2014 at 11:45 am #2075751
@noogaLocale: East TN
I've had this issue with clorox storage bottles, but didn't realize that the caps were failing. If anyone comes up with a good source for PP caps, I will be very interested.Feb 21, 2014 at 5:07 pm #2075819
Chad “Stick” PoindexterParticipant
@stickLocale: Hot & Humid Southeast....
I am about 99% sure that the mini dropper bottle I am using for bleach is from a kit that Lawson Kline used to sell on his site, although, I may be wrong…
Anyway, for the last 1.5 – 2 years, I have been using this tiny dropper bottle for bleach and have experienced no issues with the bottle, the nipple, or the cap. I simply refill it after each trip as needed to top it off, so it has had bleach in it constantly. I even just went and checked the bottle and cap over before this post to be sure and it all is just fine.Feb 21, 2014 at 5:52 pm #2075832
AndyS- Thx for the test info!
(Just found this)
Go to website above in my 02/20 post, you can request up to 10 sample items for $7.50 shipping.
I setup a 1 oz and a ½ oz dropper bottles and some extra caps.
1 OZ WHT HDPE CYL BOTTLE 20-410 1500 Item: B413
1/2 OZ NAT HDPE BR BTL 15-415 2750 Item: B439
1oz DRP PLASTIC 20-400 2000 Item: M005P (chemical resistant?)
15-415 DRP CAP PP BLUE 5000 Item: L506B
20-400 DROPPER CAP PP WHT 5000 Item: L524
20-410 PLYTP WHT PP 3mm 2750 Item: L376
15mm DROP TIP PP NAT UNCONT 9000 Item: L502
15-415 DRP CAP PP RED 5000 Item: L506R
15-415 DRP CAP PP YLW 5000 Item: L506Y
Small order fee
He’s not working trail he’s just soothing his psycheFeb 21, 2014 at 10:43 pm #2075904
caps on small bottles fail regularly, in all services.
The #1 cause is overtightening.
As plastic ages it gets brittle, plasticizers are leached out, UV degrades it, etc, even without chemical attack.
The screw threads can tighten the cap with tremendous force for such a thin sliver of plastic.Feb 22, 2014 at 10:22 am #2076018
@noogaLocale: East TN
Thanks for the link to Container and Packaging. I just placed an order.Feb 23, 2014 at 6:18 am #2076214
Livingontheroad- “caps on small bottles fail regularly, in all services. The #1 cause is overtightening”
So noted! Thx!
@ Stick – Lawson’s has been a GREAT place to shop! Not sure where my bottles were from. And thx for the Videos!
Hopefully my CL Hazardous spill days are over…
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