Need some help selecting a bugtent, not finding many options!

nevermind :0)

So what do most people buy then? Im referring to 2 person ones. Bc I havent seen too many pyramid types out on the trails?

I like this one:

but since you don't want a Tarptent, I won't suggest it…
(BTW, you can set up the Scarp 2 mesh inner with trekking poles too…)

How about the MLD Duo SuperMid Inner Tent ?

Franco

i looked at that MLD duo but at 6'4 im afraid I just wouldnt fit very nicely. THere is a picture of guy laying in it on their website and his feet and head are touching the ends and he only looks like he is 5'7 or so haha :)

What do you know about the quality of alpinlite? They seem to have what I like so far, but Im thinking ill need some adjustments to make it fit me and the lady?

What was that one that you showed a picture of?

As you probably know, I just got an Alpinlite, and have been happy with the quality even though I have only had the chance to set it up in the yard. I had mine made a custom size and Gen was very easy to work with, and was helpful in getting me exactly what I needed, so I would go with the 1.5 or have one made custom slightly bigger.

I had quite a bit changed on mine and tossed around some other ideas with him. He was helpful, gave me his insight, and that was great because I changed some things because he brought up some issues that I hadn't thought of.

As far as the quality, the stitching looks very good, and everything is nice and tidy. It looks as well made as any other piece of cottage gear that I own. There was a thread on here about the solo version, that I added to, but didn't start, and it looked like there were about three of us on here that have one.

I would like to know about some of the changes you had made. I emailed Gen but havent heard back. At first thought I think I would need it lengthened a little (im 6'4) and widened a little too. I know they have a long but am curious about widening it also.

How is yours space wise in relation to what you had done? And what was the weight after mods?

David
That one is the mesh inner of the TT Scarp 2. Not the first thing that would come to mind but it is 86" long and at least 52" wide, all fully usable.
Note that the "bathtub floor is several inches high, using trekking poles you could drop the floor further down to allow extra width.
Not sure what the height is in that shot but it is over 45".
If you cannot figure out how it works with trekking poles, send me a PM.
I think that it is about 14 oz without stakes/poles (?)
Franco

what tarp and size would you put that tarptent? And is that weight with those cross rods included?

oh nevermind i see that you already put that

David
I did that freestanding inner only set up for the Scarp users, so you are meant to use the Scarp fly if you expect rain.
However using trekking poles you should be able to adapt a tarp to it, I will try that this afternoon.
The weight is a guess on the inner only, those poles are 17 oz extra. Keep in mind that the Alpinlite is 13 oz and the ID is 26 oz, both without stakes and poles.
Franco

A couple of quick shots with the poles set up. Please note that i put it up in about 10 min, so not a lot of thinking has gone into this…
(it's sunny and my trike wants to go for a ride…)
Later on I'll do one with the trekking poles.
note that mine is the Scarp 1(fabric inner…) , the mesh version is from another Tarptent user, possibly not that familiar with alternative set ups.
The "tarp" is a Sea 2 Summit 55"x102" poncho tarp. For the 2 add about 30% plus whatever extra protection you want…
Franco

The dimensions of my Bug Shelter are:

42" width head end
28" width foot end
38" height head end
21" height foot end
84" long (vertical walls)

The weight is 9.7oz

The ID Bug Net version for the Sildome (or any other large tarp) is quite large. In fact, it appears to be able to accept three sleeping pads. See here (scroll down):

http://www.moontrail.com/integral-designs-bugdome.php

If the Scarp 2 inner is 15 oz ( I have not verified that…) using trekking poles and something like an Equinox 8'x10'; siltarp the total weight would be 29oz (not counting the trekking poles…) plus stakes.
Using the TT cross poles,corner pockets,mesh inner and 8"x10" siltarp then it would be around 47 oz plus stakes.
If spinnaker is used you save about 4 oz but spend a lot more….
10' apparently is 120" so my poncho tarp is 9" shorter at each end. The extra length should be good enough even under some serious side (non horizontal ) rain.With the cross poles set up it would be easy to cover one side more than the other, a bit trickier but doable with trekking poles.

Has a comparison the ID Sildome plus the Bugshelter is about 53 oz.
The ID will give you much more protection but it is the weight of the Scarp 2 with the standard fly
Franco

BTW, you need to mentally substitute my fabric inner for the mesh version….(seen a few posts above)

REI Bughut-2 person with an Equinox 8 x 10 tarp
$79.50 & $80.00 respectively

I use this set up with my wife who HATES the "suffocating" feeling she recieved from our 2 person HS TT as well as a Raw way TT.

We even bring our husky/lab mix,who hogs up all of the room!

"REI Bughut-2 person with an Equinox 8 x 10 tarp"

Patrick,

How are you setting this up?

Jeremy,I set up the bug hut as normal and depending on the weather:high or as low as possible, A frame-ing the tarp over the net with hiking poles,sticks or trees.Just keep in mind that the bug hut has a side door.
Patrick

ps:I know that this particular set up isn't the lightest option out there but it gets my wife out there with me!

i didnt realize you could take the Scarp 2 inner and use set it up with trekking poles. Thats awesome. Any pics or details about this are greatly appreciated!

Thanks franco

haha well forget that thought. HS Tarptent does not sell the inner mesh shelter separately to even attempt to set it up with trekking poles. So there goes that.

Sorry David, Henry has just confirmed that…
I overlooked the fact that I already have the Scarp. That could be a good excuse for you to buy one as well, pretty versatile set up.
Yesterday I came across the Hilleberg Muddus Inner, that could work but you would need a longer (11-12') tarp with it.
http://estore.websitepros.com/1764795/-strse-54/Muddus-inner-tent/Detail.bok
Franco

Patrick,
Do you find the 8×10 gives good coverage?

Franco said "The ID will give you much more protection but it is the weight of the Scarp 2 with the standard fly "

But the ID has more room.

Loads of coverage with the 2 person bug tent and more with my MLD 1 person bug tent

talked to gen from alpinlite and he said the 1.5 is not best suited for 2 people and also said that we would not be comfortable in it due to our height. It was very refreshing to have a business owner be so upfront about his product not being what we need:) Bless him I just wanted to order something from his site for heck of it, bc he seemed like such a genuine guy. but anyway…

looks like the only "light" one out there with a bathtub floor is the ID bug shelter but its not light at all. Its 26 oz i think. Sigh…..im going to keep looking though

Gonna check out that MLD one man bugtent mentioned above.

Hey patrick which MLD bug shelter are you referring to? See a few different ones

The ID has more room on paper but I don't think it will have as much usable room due to the sloping walls.

Chris – yes, hard to say. But on http://www.moontrail, there is 3 pads in there with room some room above.

The Sildome is huge. Unless I am referring to the wrong ID bug net – sorry if I am.