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Fabric Weight and Hydrostatic Head

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John Brochu BPL Member
PostedJun 21, 2009 at 7:43 am

I'm interested in looking at various material's hydrostatic head vs. weight so I can make an informed choice regarding the best choice for a bivy sack bathtub floor.

Is anybody aware of any documentation outlining the weight and hydrostatic head of various materials used in the outdoor industry?

What I've found is the hydrostatic head (basically fwiu the waterproofness of fabric under pressure) of silnylon is ~ 700mm to 1400mm which is only 15% that of traditional tent floor materials.***

I'm particularly interested in the hydrostatic head of the various weights of cuben fiber and if cuben fiber might be a better choice for a bivy bathtub floor than silnylon. I know cuben is not as puncture resistant as silnylon but I would still be using a polycryo groundsheet which should help in that regard.

What I really want is a bivy with a bathtub floor that is suitable for camping in harsh wet environments like New Hampshire's White Mountains… i.e. – where site selection for camping is severely limited by terrain or regulations or both and you may find yourself camping on saturated ground or ground that will run with rivulets of water in a prolonged rainstorm.

*** Jim Wood, "A Treatment for Silnylon Floors," May 11, 2005, http://jwbasecamp.com/Articles/Silnylon1/index.html

PostedJun 21, 2009 at 9:26 am

Cuben isn't really a fabic so not sure as to how they measure hydrostatic head. Cuben as I understand it is a polyester film/spectra fiber laminate. Not a porus woven fabric.

Should handle pressure until a seam failure basically.

PostedJun 21, 2009 at 6:23 pm

If you are using a ground sheet, (or a waterproof pad for
that matter) why should Hydrostatic head make a difference?

John Brochu BPL Member
PostedJun 21, 2009 at 6:46 pm

>>>If you are using a ground sheet, (or a waterproof pad for
that matter) why should Hydrostatic head make a difference?
<<<

I feel like in spots I've camped this year it's been entirely possible that had heavy rain occured overnight instead of sleeping on saturated ground I would have had running or pooling water.

While the groundsheet in combination with a silnylon bivy has so far worked fine, I want some extra insurace so that if I choose a poor site (either by making a poor decision or due to severely limited site availability) I might be able to at least get up and relocate prior to my sleeping bag getting soaked.

I'm hoping that I can find something with waterproof properties similar to that of traditional tent bottom fabrics, but weighing less. (I've had traditional tents basically set over a puddle and as long as they're seam sealed they won't leak for several hours.)

Maybe I'm just being paranoid but ground conditions and site selection really seems to be tough up here in the Whites for tarp camping. The official spots are often severely overused and form depressions. It's hard to find spots with high ground sloping away on all sides.

When it rains, most people seem to just bail into shelters or use traditional backpacking tents. I want to find something I'm comfortable taking into the worst conditions and not restrict myself to trails with bailout options.

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