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Nimbus Ozone Load Lifter Question

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PostedJun 10, 2009 at 6:02 am

I was wondering if anyone had any insight or tips regarding the load lifters on the Nimbus Ozone. In the manual from Granite Gear they state:

"The preferable angle for LOAD LIFTER straps to SHOULDER STRAPS is
achieved when the web connection to the FRAMESHEET is 1” higher than the top of the SHOULDER STRAPS. These can be easily adjusted by sliding them up or down."

I have also heard 45 degrees is good as well. I seem to be unable to achieve anything close to either specification with this pack. No matter what I do, the "Web connection to the framesheet" for the loadlifter straps is at best level, if not slightly below the top of my shoulder when I have the loaded pack on. I have the regular size pack and my torso measurement falls in the range the pack fits. I have tried changing the shoulder strap mounting position…Trying every increment….And the best I can do is get the load lifter connection to the framesheet about even to 1" below the top of the shoulder straps. I thought it might just be me having an odd body shape, but my GF also has the small size of this pack and she has the same issue. We have even swapped packs, me trying the small and her the regular but no go, meaning each of us have tried the entire adjustment range from the smallest torso setting on the small pack to the longest torso setting on the regular pack.

I was just wondering if there is something I am completely missing here when adjusting the pack or if it's simply not possible to achieve what the manual suggests with this pack.

For what it's worth when I get the hip belt up on my hips and adjust the pack it feels pretty comfortable…Most of the weight is off my shoulders. (Shoulder straps definitely resting on shoulders but I can slip a finger underneath fairly easy) Not sure if I am just adjusting the pack wrong or maybe I'm worrying over nothing. Any load-lifter / general pack adjustment advice for the Nimbus Ozone is appreciated!

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 6:39 am

Same results here, Aaron. I pretty much forgot about the loadlifters on my nimbus ozone after a few months. They don't seem to do much for me, so I just keep them tightened as much as they can go. Still comfortable, though. I wonder if the low pack weight that I usually carry in the pack makes the load lifters unnecessary, or if the fit of the pack makes it comfy enough on my back for me to ignore those straps. Oh well… it works out well in the end.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 7:30 am

The load lifters on the Nimbus line are there to suck the top of the pack to your shoulders. The 30-45 degress 'rule' is irrelevant in this case based on my discussions with GG. If the straps are more than an inch below, then the attachment point to the frame is too far below your shoulders and you will have to increase the torso length of the pack up a notch. I have a 19" torso and even if I were to put the sizing to 22" the load lifters would still not be at 30-45 degrees. This was originally determined to be effective with external framed packs, where the frame exceeded (often substantially) above one's shoulders. With internal framed packs, this is not necessarily the case.

Question is….does the pack fit?

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 7:47 am

I have a Nimbus Ozone size Reg. and have a 19.5" torso. The load lifter straps are anywhere from 1" above to level with my Shoulder crest. They do a good job of pulling the pack against my back (the most important part) but only a fair job of lifting the straps or load off my shoulders.
I noticed this, when I first purchased the Nimbus, and thought to myself, bad design choice.
I mean, how much weight would it add, to have made the frame sheet 1-1.5" taller? They could easily offset the weight change by making all the webbing straps 3/4" wide, versus the current 1" wide straps they now use. At least I think most of the webbing straps are 1" wide?

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 8:37 am

The pack feels pretty good. But neither her or I can get the load all the way on our hips….It's like we run out of load lifter. The torso length is adjusted correctly. (We have tried all positions lol) I agree with the post above it seems as though if the framesheet were just a little taller it would solve the issue.

I am checking out the ULA packs and they appear to have some awesome looking loadlifters (And perhaps easier to reach water bottle pockets???) But I am concerned that the suspension style will not transfer the load as well as the Nimbus framesheet. So just guessing, you might get say…Better loadlifters to transfer the weight but not as good a frame to transfer the weight? Not sure…Might be totally wrong with that assumption.

Does anyone know if in practice the load lifters of the Catalyst and / or the Circuit are better than the Nimbus Ozone? What about the load carrying ability and overall comfort compared? If I tried one out, not sure which one I should get…I need something able to handle 40lbs on occasion early in a trip but would average around 25 – 30lbs. The Nimbus Ozone capacity was just right for me, looks like the Circuit is right on that level while the Catalyst would have a lot of spare room. Guess I would get a lighter pack either way.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 9:30 am

I have a short torso (18 inch) and initially tried the short torso pack from Granite Gear. Afterall that's what the literature from them says to do.

I found that the angle of the lifters did exactly what you were describing, it actually went down instead of up.

I did not like the way it felt, so I went ahead and go the large torso and it seems to work better for me.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 9:35 am

Aaron – very strange. I can load the Nimbus up with bricks and all of the weight sits on my hip bone. Are you cranking down too much on the shoulder straps? On that pack (not frameless), the shoulder straps are there to secure the load, not lift it.

Are you sure that you have the correct hip belt size and shoulder harness size? There are different sizes and are interchangeable.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 10:06 am

Correct hip belt and shoulder strap size yes… I have actually exchanged out for the right ones. I actually keep the shoulder straps pretty loose, as loose as possible. Like I said earlier it's comfortable, and MOST of the weight sits on my hips, but I was just wondering about those load lifters and trying to get them to where the manual suggests in search of more comfort…Doesn't seem possible though.

Jim MacDiarmid BPL Member
PostedJun 10, 2009 at 10:14 am

>For what it's worth when I get the hip belt up on my hips and adjust the pack it feels pretty comfortable…Most of the weight is off my shoulders.

I'm far from an expert, but if the pack is comfortable, I'd be inclined to say you are, as you say, worrying over nothing.

I was really concerned about the lack of load lifters on my Gossamer Gear Gorilla, but I've found that if the pack fits, and the hip belts do their job, for UL loads, load-lifters are irrelevant.

Many here would probably argue that for UL loads, hip belts are irrelevant, but I haven't reached that point yet. Gotta strengthen my Lats first.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 10:17 am

This isn't exclusive to the Nimbus, but I hate the fact that the load lifter straps are fixed, and not adjustable. There's no way to get the lift point at the top or slightly forward of the shoulder crest, without changing the anchor point on the shoulder straps on the pack, at back-panel?
Almost all packs, have slider buckles to allow adjustment here.

PostedJun 10, 2009 at 10:19 am

Lol thanks James, that's what I'm starting to think, though the ULA Catalyst looks interesting too!

I was mostly worried that I was doing something wrong, since after trying both the small and regular pack and spending much time trying all different combinations of torso legth settings etc…I just can't get those lifters UP. I thought for sure I was doing something wrong. But, if it's comfortable what does it matter, I guess.

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