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Under 1.5 pound full coverage shelter

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PostedJun 3, 2009 at 9:18 pm

Looking at two shelters (one combination) for use soley with trekking poles. I would like to get some opinions on the following two shelters with respect to:

-weather performance, specifically wind driven rain.
-ease of set up.
-overall packed size.
-personal preference.

Which two? The Tarptent Sublite Sil and the combination of the MLD Patrol Shelter (possibly Spinn, likely Sil) and MLD Serenity Shelter. Similar weights overall, however I would see if Ron would extend the length of the Serenity for me (long sleeping bag issues). One concern I have with the Patrol is that if one does need to pitch it to the ground, does it affect the shape and pitch of the Serenity and / or how do you get into it with the low beak?

I would like to hear from owners, dreamers, and armchair UL'ers.

Mark Verber BPL Member
PostedJun 3, 2009 at 9:58 pm

It I was doing it all over again I would be tempted to do the MLD DuoMid + InnerNet combo which should be good on ease of set up, weather performance, and reasonable on the packed size. I have been pretty happy with the Gossamer Gear The One which is good (but not great) in all your categories,

–mark

Joe Clement BPL Member
PostedJun 3, 2009 at 9:58 pm

Haven't used either, but it seems like the MLD combo would be higher maintenance, as far as getting a good pitch. The Sublite would just set up.

Brad Rogers BPL Member
PostedJun 4, 2009 at 7:21 am

I have no experience with the Sublite, but just bought a Gossamer Gear SpinnShelter intending to do the same thing with it. I liked the SpinnShelter better than the Patrol because you could pitch it to the ground if need be, and it has a full vestibule and door and I don't have to crawl under the break. I plan on pairing it with a Serenity style shelter, the Alpinlite Bug Shelter only I am having mine made wider than normal because I like to spread out in my tent. The whole set up with stakes, guylies, etc should come in at 23-24 ounces.

I have no doubt that the Sublite would be faster to set up and provide good protection, but where I live I don't think I could live with a single wall shelter. Yes, I would get condensation either way, but with a single wall shelter, I would have to pack everything up together. With the modular tent, I can keep the inner dry as a pack and store the outer tent separate. Since you are in the Rockies, you probably wouldn't have the humidity that we have to deal with in the Southeast so it might be the better choice. It certainly is cheaper.

PostedJun 4, 2009 at 7:33 am

i don't own either of the shelters you have mentioned, so i guess that makes me a deamer or armchair UL'er, but…

i would think the sublite would be easier to pitch and possibly easier to use in bad weather. i do think the patrol shelter would provide great coverage if pitched really low for bad weather.
personally, i would go with the MLD setup as it provides more versatility. there may be trips where the bug bivy is not necessary or vice versa. that would save you alot of weight when you can leave one behind.

ben-

PostedJun 4, 2009 at 8:13 am

Thanks Guys:


@Mark
– I too really like the Duo Mid. However, I wish that there had been an option of a half-inner with the pole outside the shelter and thus providing additional vestibule space. Would have been lighter too. I know that the current inner tent can be rolled back but that seems like a bit of a bandaid effect, at least for the solo hiker.


@Joe
– yes, I thought that too. And I am no Franco in my ability to set shelters up quickly.


@Brad
– I will check out the Spinn as well. I had briefly a Golite Shangri-La 1 which has a similar design but there is not nearly enough room between the poles for anyone over 5'10" or so. I think the specs reported are way off. I measured approximately 77" between the poles (Golite suggests 84"). I like the idea of a double walled shelter as well, with no measurable weight penalty (the Patrol in Spinn with the Serenity is a pound).


@Ben
– I too appreciate the versatility of the Patrol. IN bug free months I could use it with a bivy deep into fall I would think. On the other hand, I could use the Sublite deep into the fall as well…..

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Ryan Teale BPL Member
PostedJun 4, 2009 at 11:18 am

Maybe I can add to the confusion. I just got my Duomid and the Serenity nettent from SMD. They work very well together and would meet your requirements at 23oz. The combo is a bit more expensive but you would have a two man shelter when you need it and also a shelter capable of winter usage. The Duomid really sets up tight as a drum and I havn't set up the mid height guyouts yet.

I need to get some pics up and do a review in the next few days.

Ryan

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