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Looking for UL Tent and Bag for 3 season use in Utah

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Trill Daddy BPL Member
PostedMay 3, 2009 at 11:37 pm

I have been browsing this forums for months, but this is my first post.

Living in Utah, I would be a fool for not taking advantage of our great outdoors. I am looking for a lightweight setup for weekenders in Utah, mainly the desert and Uintahs from Spring to early Fall but cannot decide between some gear, either due to lack of reviews or hands on experience.

Tents:

MHW Skyledge 2.1
MHW Viperine 2
Marmot Aura 2p

Pack:

Osprey Atmos 58
Gregory Z55
MHW Koa 55

Sleeping bag:

Marmot Arroyo
Marmot Arete
Marmot Atom
MHW Phantom 32

I have quite the batch of wool baselayers as well as good midlayers to keep me warm on colder days. I figure that with a 40 degree bag, I could put on a Wool 3 and a MHW Phantom Jacket to keep me warm down to freezing.

I am just looking for a bomber and lightweight setup to use around Utah and the surrounding areas. Much thanks in advance, I know you guys are an excellent resource!

PostedMay 4, 2009 at 12:20 am

I highly recommend you have a read of Mark Verber’s recommended gear pages. They give a very good roundup of the main options.

Personally I wouldn’t opt for any of the options you have listed above. I’d get a tarptent (or a tarp) from Tarptent, SMD or MLD, probably a pack from ULA or Osprey (the Exos line), and a sleeping bag from Montbell, Western Mountaineering or a quilt from golite or JRB.

But there are a ridiculous number of options. Read some gear lists and find some that you like. “Adventure Alan” (Alan Dixon… google it) has an excellent gear page with recommended gear too.

HTH! Cheers, Ashley

PostedMay 4, 2009 at 2:05 am

Babak,

There are a few variables to consider in regard to shelters. Wind typically carries dust in the desert, and this dust loves to get inside tents through mesh. If you are looking at single or double wall, fully enclosed tents, this is something to consider. Some double wall tents have mesh that is higher up the sides, and this can help. Single wall tents (i.e Tarptent and Six Moon Designs), though full of mesh, do very well in low humidity conditions, and are a great option. Securing stakes in the ground can sometimes be tricky, and so you will want to have some practice with staking in various terrain. Even "free standing" tents need stakes in the wind.

You might, however, consider going with a tarp and bivy combo. Much of the time, in the conditions you are likely to face, a bivy will be just fine on its own. Bugs are not a huge issue, and neither is precipitation. A bivy allows you to sleep all sorts of places a tent can't go, keeps essential gear dust and dirt (and critter) free wind or no wind, requires no staking to the ground, gives great views of the night sky, and allows for very low impact camping in fragile environments. No fuss. For the odd chance you need it, bring a small tarp. On his recent epic adventure, I think Andrew Skurka said he only used his tarp a few nights. This setup is light, flexible, and effective.

Packs and sleeping bags have a lot to do with personal preference. Down is great in the desert, and there are plenty of down bags out there. As for your pack, it is sometimes possible to travel very light in the desert- frameless packs such as the Golite Jam or Pinnacle do very well. However, desert hiking often requires you to carry a lot of water, and for some this is reason enough to consider a frame pack.

Hope this helps- I'm sure others will have more to add.

Enjoy Utah!

James

Trill Daddy BPL Member
PostedMay 4, 2009 at 10:24 pm

To be honest with you, I rarely camp without a tent (its a security thing). Does anyone own the Skyledge?

PostedMay 5, 2009 at 2:55 am

No experience whatsoever with any of them apart from looking at them on the shop floor and specs on the net. But here are some points to consider.
The Viperine is pretty small for a 2 person tent. 40" wide at the front and 36 at the rear. One door.
The other two are very similar in layout and vestibule space, however note that the Marmot is 50" wide at both ends, same length as the Skyledge 2.1.
The Skyledge is 46" wide at one end but 40" at the other, so it will depend a lot on how tall the two people inside are.
Franco

PostedMay 5, 2009 at 12:29 pm

Ashley Brown gives good acvice. I live in Las Vegas (Henderson, actually) and use the following:

SLEEPING BAG> W.M Megalite, makes a great quilt when unzipped in warmer weather. Zipped it will be good at 30 F

MATTRESS> Thermarest Neo-Air (yeah, I'm a gear junkie)

TENT> TarpTent Contrail (& one adjustable hiking pole in front) Lots of room & ventilation.

PACK> REI 2008 Cruise 60, BUT I like the Osprey Exos better

Eric

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