Mar 7, 2009 at 6:36 pm #1234614
I recently compleated a project of a wood heated shelter with a total weight of 2 lbs 12 oz
I started with a GoLite ShrangiLa 2 and sewed in a fiberglass stove jack. I then removed all the adjustable webbibg stake outs with their fastex buckles. The tent pegs were replaced with Vargo Ti pegs. Weight does not include trekking poles which are necessary.
The stove is made from a stainless steel canister with threaded legs, brass rectangular tubing pot supports and a Ti Goat titanuim pipe/damper set up.
The reason for this project was not only to break the 3 lb barrier, but to have a stove that need very little assembly.
I have been building wood stoves since 1974 and designed the current model Kifaru stove, ( And manufactured them for 7 years until I had no time to play or write.)
Cylinder stove with pot supports.
EdMar 7, 2009 at 7:01 pm #1483642
Snow Peak Ti Kettle on wood stove.Mar 7, 2009 at 7:10 pm #1483643
Ti Kettle fits inside stove for transport.Mar 7, 2009 at 7:39 pm #1483651
wow nice job on the stove! Do you have any pics of the stove and GoLite shelter assembled?Mar 7, 2009 at 7:47 pm #1483652
@maynard76Locale: New England
Can a stove that small really heat up a ShrangiLa 2?
I have no experience hot camping so Im curious.
I imagine you will have to really be on the ball feeding wood to a stove that size?Mar 7, 2009 at 8:09 pm #1483655
Ron DBPL Member
Ed – It's incredible you got the weight down that low for a heated winter shelter.Mar 7, 2009 at 8:21 pm #1483661
I will post some pictures soon with the stove in the shelter.
The stove dimensions are 4.75 diameter and 6.75 long.
Yes a stove this small will put out a lot of heat as well as being able to provide for all cooking functions.
Small stoves do require more attension but at that point I am just sitting or laying around the tent anyway. Sure is nice to crawl into the sleeping bag totally warm.
Iv'e been using wood heated nylon shelters since 1985 and except in the heat of summer, they are my first choice.Mar 7, 2009 at 8:22 pm #1483662
For some very light weight stoves check out Ti Goat Here.Mar 7, 2009 at 8:27 pm #1483664
I had done a Golite Hex 3 with stove that came in at 5 lbs and my goal with the SH 2 was to get under 3.5. When my first version came in at 3 lb 4 oz, I was sure that 3 lbs could be broken. I was actually suprised at getting to 2 lb 12 oz.
EdMar 7, 2009 at 8:37 pm #1483665
@umnakLocale: Southeast Alaska
Amazing. You have really set the benchmark for making a stove a possibility for hiking. Let us know if you plan to manufacture these. It was 9 the last night we spent on the beach.Mar 8, 2009 at 12:41 am #1483690
Fred ericBPL Member
@fre49Locale: France, vallée de la Loire
it looks great !.
I ordered a Ti Goat cylinder stove a month and a half ago, but didnt recieve it yet so i didnt experience how hard is it to assembly it, but sure it doesnt look that easy with cold hands.
I was already thinking about the alternative of a one piece small cylinder stove, and im happy to see this is doable.
Unless you plan to sell those, i am very curious about how you do the connection between the pipe and the stove.
fredericMar 8, 2009 at 12:55 am #1483692
@mikefaedundeeLocale: Under a bush in Scotland
Looks fantastic. At these weights, i would start to think about carrying a wood stove.Mar 8, 2009 at 7:37 am #1483702
There are a couple ways to join/support the pipe ( which is titanium foil) at the stove.
My 1st version used a collar, a short piece of 30 gauge stainless that is rooled into a cylinder. This has pop rivits pertruding out to set on the stove top.
The 2nd version used a Ti-Goat damper plate which sets on the stove top to keep the pipe from sliding into the stove. This also has a screened fitting that inserts into the stove pipe and actually extends into the stove. The screen is to prevent embers from burning your shelter.
A picture says a 1000 words so here you go:Mar 8, 2009 at 7:40 am #1483703Mar 8, 2009 at 8:24 am #1483714
Tim MarshallBPL Member
is the cylinder a walmart flour container or something similar?
-TimMar 8, 2009 at 8:36 am #1483716
Fred ericBPL Member
@fre49Locale: France, vallée de la Loire
Thanks ED for the photos and explanation :)Mar 8, 2009 at 8:38 am #1483717
The clyinder is a stainless steel Planatery Designs Air Lock.Mar 8, 2009 at 8:56 am #1483723
You give a total weight, but could you also provide the split between the Shangri-La 2 and the stove?
With the Shangri-La 2 starting at 1# 13oz, getting a boot, and loosing some buckles, the stove seems amazingly light for stainless steel.
Thanks.Mar 8, 2009 at 11:19 am #1483747
Here is how the weight brakes down:
Stove complete 21 oz, SH 2 23 oz.
The stove with legs: 14 oz.
4' Titanium foil pipe with damper, ember screen and pipe rings: 7 ozMar 8, 2009 at 11:45 am #1483750
This is quite an accomplishment.
Going to the extreme, if you consider something like the MLD Cuben DuoMid the weight drops another 13 ounces for a total of only 31 ounces.(A boot will bring it up a little.)
Unbelievably light for Shelter, Stove, And Heat.
Long winter nights start to seem a little more enjoyable.Mar 8, 2009 at 12:04 pm #1483755
Something like the MLD would reduce the weight further. I also thought about a GoLite SH 1. Prolite lists the weight a 1 lb. 3 oz. It might be possible to get an SH 1 to 12 – 14 oz, which would be good especially for just over $100.
My concern for the SH 1 is that there wouldn't be enough room for a stove and sleeping bag. The SH 2 essentially becomes a solo shelter when the stove is in use.Mar 8, 2009 at 7:26 pm #1483852
Steven EvansBPL Member
Not trying to take away from your creation, which is great. Simply giving some numbers for comparison.
MLD Cuben Duomid w/ guylines – 11 oz.
Kevlar Stove Jack – 3.5 oz.
Ti Goat Stove w/ Ti Pipe – 19 oz.
Total 33.5 oz. I don't even want to talk about the cost though. ;)
Mar 8, 2009 at 8:07 pm #1483874
Nice set-up Steven and super light.
The biggest reason for building my cylinder stove was to have a stove with very little assembly. Screw in the legs, un-roll the pipe and build a fire.
The whole project cost less than $200.Mar 10, 2009 at 9:52 pm #1484563
Paul DavisBPL Member
@pdavisLocale: Yukon, 60N 135W
Ed: Thanks for doing all the sheet metal bashing and folding required to make the Kifaru stoves! I have their tiniest one which I use every spring + Fall in the Yukon in a 3kg (ouch!) MEC Snowfield 2 person mountaineering tent. So I get great joy out of it, thanks for all that work! I have not quite got up the courage to put in the stove jack in my I-tent, but maybe some day!
I am not up to posting photos here, but you will have to imagine a Mini Solo potset with soup and bread on top of a Kifaru para stove in the yellow and blue vestibule with the subarctic sunshine pouring through, on a snow-shoe packed base of 1.5M of snow, the whole thing packed in in a yellow garage-sale mono-pole pulk sled!
I am hoping to do some more of that next week!
60N 135WMar 21, 2009 at 8:06 pm #1487806
@aeronauticalLocale: Stoke Newington, London, UK.
This is the most elegantly simple, yet simply elegant answer to small tent heating and cooking in a fast set-up, ultra light compact stove that I've ever seen!
Do the set screw legs thread into the stove body directly, or into rivnuts, and are the set screws M4 or M5?
I'm looking forward to seeing more photo's of your fabulous stove, many thanks for sharing.
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