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Will cuffs on new Montbell U.L. Thermawrap Parka still fit over base/mid/shell? W’s sizing

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Ethan A. BPL Member
PostedFeb 11, 2009 at 2:33 pm

Trying to figure out sizing of the new Montbell Thermawrap women's jacket for my wife, when sized large enough to use as a belay-type jacket over layers (typically one size up is enough). Montbell sizing can sometimes be all over the map because of Japanese-European-U.S. sizing models, though their products are very high quality.

I size my last year's Thermawrap Parka 1 size larger as I like to use it as a belay-type jacket for rest stops or in camp. I'm 6 ft tall 185 lbs 42 in. chest and a Large would have fit me snuggly over a baselayer and under a shell. My XL fits over a thin merino baselayer (Ibex Pacifica), R1 hoody midlayer and thin wind shell (Patagonia Houdini), light soft shell in winter (Patagonia Ready Mix) or thin rain shell (Montbell 12 oz)? My wife wears the same layers.

Cuffs on the latest model are supposed to have an elastic wedge, as do the sides of the hem. If sized up one size, would this still fit over thin base, light R1 midlayer and thin/light shell?

For a belay type fit on the older jacket my wife would wear a men's Medium. For the new women's Thermawrap Parka, would she have to size up to a women's Large to get a 1 size larger fit (she's 130lbs, 5 ft 6, size 8, usually wears a women's medium in tops)?

PostedFeb 11, 2009 at 7:24 pm

The cuffs are quite stretchy, and I've comfortably worn mine with 2 base layers.

I found a Women's XL in the Thermawrap U.L. Parka roughly equivalent to a Men's Large in the U.L. Down Inner Parka, so a Women's L should be roughly equivalent to a men's M.

Interestingly, seeing as how men generally have smaller hip structure than women, the women's XL is snugger in the hips and lower abdomen than the men's L is.

Ethan A. BPL Member
PostedFeb 12, 2009 at 12:59 am

Thanks for the sizing info – very helpful. The snugger hip and abdomen cut was probably an attempt at a more "feminine cut." A lot of good outerwear gets ruined for backcountry use that way. Look at how many women's jackets are cut too snug in the waist and hips. I'm sure outerwear companies are under constant pressure to make gear for the urbanites who make many purchases but never use the clothes outside of around-town use.

Anyway, I'll have my wife check the fit of the women's large with all her layers on.

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