Searching?

[Ryan Dunne]

for some reason i have a horrible time searching the forums.

Boolean strings don't work, and I seem to get every single post that has my word in it rather than having any relevency.

Just wondering if I'm missing something or if not, will it ever be fixed?

I'm sure there is a wealth of knowledge in these forums, but I can't seem to find much.

[Ashley Brown]

Ryan, the best way to search IMO is to use a site-specific google search.

Try putting "site:backpackinglight.com" into your searches. This restricts google to searching on just this site, and in general it returns better matches than the site's own search engine (this is the case for almost all websites).

For example, "double rainbow site:backpackinglight.com". Using this method I can always find lots of old forum posts quickly and easily.

[Ashley Brown]

ps. To search only the forums (not the rest of the site) you can use: "site:www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums"

[Greg Mihalik]

Ryan,
Just curious, are you using Advanced search and 'all words'?

And Ashley's suggestion is a good one. It works.

[Brett Tucker]

Along with streamlining the format of the forums for user-friendliness, I wonder whether BPL would ever consider offering an information retrieval service. For a per-use fee, a live person takes your search criteria and goes to town with it, finding everything on the forums that's potentially relevant to your specific query and then digesting it into something truly useful, to be sent to the specific user via private message.

BPL's current position: the forums are not a specific source of revenue.
Forum users' position: the forums contain a wealth of information, but it can be difficult and time-consuming to mine.

Just a thought.

[Ashley Brown]

BPL should probably just do a customized search engine (CSE) powered by google.

[Brett Tucker]

As an early user of Amazon's Kindle reading device, I thought their NowNow service was quite a wonder. You asked NowNow a question in plain English, and received up to 3 responses from live people, usually within 10 minutes. Unfortunately NowNow never made it past beta, but not because it wasn't extremely useful, rather Amazon's costs for the service were bankrolled into the unit cost of the device. Other comparable services charge a use fee. The strength of such a service lies in the weakness of using search engines: culling all that's irrelevant and making quick sense of what's useful.

[Anonymous]

Hi Ryan,

I'm curious what strings you tried, and in what way were the results not relevant? You can also use an exclusion pattern (ex. "tent -bivy" will find results with tent, but not bivy).

The search engine results are based off of many factors in terms of relevancy, including but not limited to number of times the term is on the page, where is on the page, density of words on the page, page depth (length of url).

[Ryan Dunne]

Hum. Well it looks like it has been updated in the past few months. I remember it used to be horribly painful to find anything. If i typed JMT "trip report" I would get everything that had JMT OR "trip report" in it. It is no longer like this.

That's what i get for opening my mouth before trying it again. hehe.

I actually found all kinds of stuff pretty fast-like. woo!

thanks for the tip with google. works much better…

[Joe Geib]

Can we institute the functionality to be able to search for individual users on the forums? Sometimes I remember who posted a response/thread that I was interested in, but don't have all the keywords remembered.

It's also good to see what some of the more power-users on the boards are up to (like on Gear Swap or MYO Gear).

[Anonymous]

Joe,

Interesting idea, I'll keep it in my notes for now. You can always go to the user's profile page, and look through their posts.

[Joe Geib]

But finding the user first is the objective of the serach.

[Greg Mihalik]

Search for the name –

Pick it out of the result – you show up in #1, #2, #3, …

Click on any of them –

Then click on Joe Geib's Name – you'll see your profile, and what you have posted.

[Joe Geib]

Ah, I now know why it never worked for me. I used to do the name search in the "search forums" engine, not on the "general BPL search" engine. Thanks for the clarification.

Still, my initial comment stands. You cannot search for members in the "Search Forums" engine. (Maybe that's why it's called "search forums" and not "search members".)

[Chris Benson]

Any tips on how to restrict a search a specific forum?

[Joe Geib]

You can always eliminate words in the search criteria by using the "-" (minus) before the word. This works well in ebay as well.

Try doing a traditional google search for things. use "site:backpackinglight.com" followed by the serach keywords or eliminated words.

[Greg Mihalik]

Use Advanced Search
Place the Forum Name in quotes e.g. "Make Your Own Gear"
Select the All Words button

or

At the right under Forums
>Search Forums

[Chris Benson]

Thanks! Exactly what I wanted, and right in front of me the whole time.

[Kent C.]

Now that these helpful (and especially effective) tips are here, bookmark the page so that you can come directly here for a refresher if you ever forget anything!

or not…just a thought!

[Ryan Harvey]

If there was a search in thread titles only feature for the forums it would make this site perfect.

[Gary Boyd]

more search options would be beneficial.

[drowning in spam]

Ugh, quoting the forum name produces worse results than merely browsing the forums manually, at least for Gear Swap stuff. I'm another advocate for gaining the ability to search a specific forum.

[Greg Mihalik]

"I'm another advocate for gaining the ability to search a specific forum."

As mention in page 1 of this thread –

Look to the right, under Forums, to find "Search Forums".

[Ryan Harvey]

The main problem is not being able to search in thread titles only. If you want to search for "sleeping bag" you are going to get hundreds of irrelevant posts before you find what you are looking for. If you could search in thread titles it would save on the amount of duplicate posts we see with people asking the same questions.

[drowning in spam]

"As mention in page 1 of this thread –

Look to the right, under Forums, to find "Search Forums"."

The key word here is 'specific'. Thanks for trying though.

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