Ti Goat stove in a ‘Mid ?

Have a look here :
http://www.kifaru.net/TIPI.HTM
maybe in one of the forums there.
Franco

Thanks Franco. The forums appear to be down right now, but there was still some good info on this site.

I was thinking about doing this with a MLD or Oware Mid. If anyone has tried something similar I'd like to hear your impressions.

Hi
I think that you have to subscribe (free) to access the forums, can't remember now.
Look here http://www.titaniumgoat.com/stoves.html and search for "stove boot" "stove jack"
Click the Hunting Home link on the front page, the forums are on that page.
More here http://cylinderstoves.com/catalog/rubber-stove-jack-p-222.html
Franco

Ah, okay, I found the forums.
http://www.kifaruforums.net/ for future reference. You have to register to post, but viewing is open.
Great links, Franco – thanks again!

Jason,

I have put stove jacks/boots in 3 different GoLite shelters. They work well

Um, maybe I'm missing something… Did you check the Ti Goat site? The stove boots they sell are used in their mids, which I'm pretty sure are silnylon… but I could be mistaken. Not sure what recommendations are for sealing around the installation, but it seams like (sorry) a good ol' tube of SeamGrip would do the trick.

Ed: Thanks for the feedback – was just looking for a general impression.

Brad: I'm aware of the info on the TiGoat site, none of which gave me a sense of people's actual satisfaction with the product. Leakage through the port closure was my concern, not the seams.

Thanks all.

Jay, I have a Ti Goat stove and boot, but I haven't sewn the boot into my mid yet…reason is: Have you weighed the boot? I think it weighs more then my mid!
I have this vision in my head of a boot that can be added into the door zipper so that if you are base camping or doing a short overnighter, you can "zip" the boot in and bring the stove, but then remove it for trips where the stove isn't coming. To me, the boot would just be a huge weight penalty on a trip where you didn't bring the stove…having said that, that stove gets really nice and warm! :)

Jason,

I just sewed a velcro down rain flap for the rare time I use one of these shelters without a stove.

Steven,

While I haven't seen the Ti-Goat stove jack, the fiberglass jacks I have sewen into my Go-Lites have add only 3-4 ounces.

For ne these cod weather shelters that I seldom use without a stove, so while several ounces is a lot with the UL crowd, it is the penealty one pays for having a heated shelter.

As far as heated shelters go, I have found that I can often off set some of that weight by bring less clothing and can even get by with a lighter sleeping bag because I am going to bed warm even thought the stoves don't hold fire for long.

so while several ounces is a lot with the UL crowd, it is the penealty one pays for having a heated shelter.

Ed,
Agreed – you can't have it all :). I have only used the stove once so far and while I did love it, it won't accompany me on winter trips where I cover some distance, so I was looking for something removable. However, if you were to dedicate a shelter to the wood stove, the Mid is probably your lightest option.
3-4 oz isn't bad. I haven't weighed my stove jack, but I was under the impression it was much more then that – I'll have to check. My Cuben Mid, with lines trimmed, comes in at just over 10oz, so you can see my hesitation to add 40% of its weight back in – it would break my back ;)

I have a TiGoat Vertex5 with their Cylinder Ti stove…..works great. The stove is, of course, small and requires almost constant feeding, but will warm the interior.
Don

Jason, I get it…

Ed, where did you get your stove jacks, and/or did you make them?

I'm also thinking about that woodstove Colin did with the ceramic fiber… wonder how that would work in this application. Or maybe even a removable, thin Ti foil or sheet? Cheers-

Brad,

I designed the current series of Kifaru wood stovs and manufactured them for Kifaru until this past year when I simply didn't have enough time. They are now being built for Kifaru by a friend of mine.

Any way, the stove jack material is the same that Kifaru uses. While doing design work I had a bit of the material to use. Kifaru once sold the stove jack material, but quit offering it at their insurance company's request due to liability concerns.

I assume the Ti-Goat material is pretty similar.

Ed

On 01/22/2009 07:56:43 MST Steven Evans (Steve_Evans) said:

"Jay, I have a Ti Goat stove and boot, but I haven't sewn the boot into my mid yet…reason is: Have you weighed the boot? I think it weighs more then my mid!
I have this vision in my head of a boot that can be added into the door zipper so that if you are base camping or doing a short overnighter, you can "zip" the boot in and bring the stove, but then remove it for trips where the stove isn't coming. To me, the boot would just be a huge weight penalty on a trip where you didn't bring the stove…having said that, that stove gets really nice and warm! :)"

This was exactly my thinking. The downside is the stove would be right in the middle of the door depending on your tent's design, i.e. I have a shangri-la 3. Then again, given the design of the tent (octogonal), there's not really many better places to put it.

That said does anyone know if there's been any progress on this?

I'm otherwise thinking I'll cross this road when i get to it, but I'm hoping when I do get to it I can make the stove boot velcro in so I can remove it and then velcro back shangri-la's vent I'm going to have to cut to put it in.

Before fibreglass stove jacks where available, canvas wall tents would have a tin or aluminium plate with a hole sized to the pipe, dropped into a pocket sewn in the tents side wall. You could do the same with titanium in a tipi. You would have to have to determine the angle that the pipe will pass through the plate and cut a matching oval. Depending how your stove and use of interior space work, the jack might want to be a little lower than the peak and the stove pipe angled towards it so it could be "smaller" as the needed set back from the tent fabric changes with the intersecting geometry. A down side of a metal jack would be the skritchy skritchy sound as the tent moves in the wind. A wrap of fibreglass tape should quiet things.

Here's one velcro option – http://seekoutside.com/instructions/stove-jack-installation/