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Is saving the extra 1 kg worth it?

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Peter Barron BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:07 pm

I have a Hilleberg Allak (2.68 kg in "refined" mode, 2.96kg full spec).

Overkill for where I live but I do like the self standing, double wall construction and surprisingly vents very well.

I will be using it for Nepal (likely up to 5,000 metres) and Patagonia as also.

I am obsessed with the one tent to do everything (destructive obsession I know) and am wondering if a Hubba Hubba HP (~1.7kg) would do almost as well for the expected conditions but for 1 kg lighter?

Rod Lawlor BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:17 pm

Peter,

I'm not sure what's driving your goal to go with one tent, but it may be worth thinking through a little more.

If it's storage space and simplicity, that's fine. But I have a feeling you would get much better functionality and longevity of the Hilleberg by buying a lighter, cheaper, more appropriate tent for use 90% of the time, and keeping the Hilleberg for when you really need it. Keep it clean, dry and out of the sun after use and you should easily get 20 years out of it.

Pick up the MSR to use for the times you don't NEED the bomber protection and save enough weight to carry a couple of beers and a packet of Twisties for the end of the day.

Rod

Joe Clement BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:32 pm

I don't know if a Hubba Hubba HP will do what you want, buy you can get a normal Hubba Hubba and buy your own carbon poles for a lot less.

Peter Barron BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Thanks for your thoughts Rod. Sounds like the voice of reason.

I suspect that some of my travel in Nepal and Patagonia will be solo and I was feeling guilty about
A) carrying excessive weight (having the MSR is almost like a one man weight in two walled tents),
B) Cost and luxury of having two great tents
C) Yes the obsession – not sure where it comes from but it is almost like a challenge to find the universal tent. Fruitless pursuit I am gathering but succeeded with this theory in mountain biking – ie trail bike that doubles as a race bike.

I suppose the main question comes down to will the MSR be significantly undergunned for some of the Nepal or Patagonia conditions?

Will saving the 1 kg with the MSR be worth the risk?

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:42 pm

What about getting a Soulo — still a bomber tent but more compact and lighter weight — perfect for travels?

Edit – Never mind… I re-read and realized that only some of the trips are solo.

PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:57 pm

Hi Peter,
I'd think twice about using an MSR Hubba Hubba HP in the kind of weather Patagonia, in particular, is renowned for. I've checked the regular, more robust, Hubba Hubba(a friend of mine brought one on a Sierra trip) and, while it is a nice tent for relatively mellow weather, I don't think it would fare very well in really nasty conditions. Much better to take a sturdier tent that pitches as a unit(fly and body simultaneously), like the Hilleberg line.

Peter Barron BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 4:58 pm

Benjamin, I must admit I have considered this option and letting my hiking partner deal with getting their own tent. Doesn't work so well though if the hiking partner is your girlfriend…

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedDec 6, 2008 at 5:05 pm

Peter:

Given it's your GF, you are smart to opt for a double. Just make sure that you bring along two bags that can be mated (zipped) together — and just a tad on the cool side — so she'll want to snuggle.

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