Dec 6, 2008 at 1:13 pm #1232447
I recently sold my FF 30F Syn quilt, and am in the market for a new bag/quilt.
I really don't go out in the winter here in Eastern PA, so it'll definitely be for 3-season use. I already have a 50F summer bag, so I need something colder.
Looking at what's been on sale lately, I am trying to choose between:
JRB No Sniveler
GoLite Ultra 20
WM HighLite 35
BA Horse Thief 35
What is the reasonable estimated range of the JRB No Sniv?
Any input from experience? I know there are some of you out there who have gone through a few of these.
Thanks.Dec 6, 2008 at 2:09 pm #1462581
Joe ClementBPL Member
I was comfortable in my Ultra 20 last night @ 24 degrees, with a normal base layer and socks. I really needed a heavier hat was the only problem.Dec 6, 2008 at 2:45 pm #1462584
@pbrown19Locale: Traverse City MI
I've used my no sniveller down into the 20s with no problem. I really like how I can wear it around camp with the head hole. I ordered the long size so I can pull it up over my head when the temperature drops below freezing.Dec 6, 2008 at 6:50 pm #1462637
The Highlite rating I believe is accurate but it only has half a zip and if temps warm up you can overheat quickly. Without a full zip you can't use it as a quilt – my only problem with it.
ChuckDec 6, 2008 at 9:26 pm #1462656
What else did you have on with the No Sniv into the 20s? Just a base layer, like Joe and the GoLite?Dec 6, 2008 at 9:28 pm #1462657
te – waBPL Member
Hello Joe G.
i have used the hudson river, a no sniveller minus the hole. the two Jacks are the only commercial enterprise who make one single piece of gear that can be used for:
a closed foot, top quilt on the ground or in a hammock
a hammock underquilt
a flat blanket
the versatility of the No Sniveller cannot be beaten.
however, unless you plan on using it for temps from 30-60° you might find it a bit "too" versatile.
I used a Highlite and found the small zipper to be of little use in temps about 45° and above. I sold it in favor of the JrB quilt.
I found that the JrB quilt although a very nice piece of gear, has a width of 48" and that makes for a BIG footbox. It was imho a bit too big for my feet and all that dead space = wasted energy to heat it. Sold it in favor of a DIY quilt.
I would narrow a search for good prices between the Summerlite and the Ultra 20. If all you want is a quilt for ground sleeping and you want the weight savings, the Ultra 20 is terrific.
If you ever plan on using the No Sniveller in humid, warm camps or as a hammock underquilt, it is the BOMB
It would be easier to narrow a specific model for you if we were told exactly what conditions you expect to endure :) mike
* i used the Hudson River quilt down to 30 without any cold spots, wearing only hiking pants and t-shirt. only sold it in favor of a momentum and down quilt project that turned out well.Dec 7, 2008 at 12:08 am #1462674
@trhaleyLocale: Pacific Northwest
I just got an ultra 20 for winter camping in the PNW. have only tested it in the back yard so far, but I was a little too warm with my cocoon parka when temp was around freezing. I'm eager to really put it to the test but it seems like a great quilt for a good price.Dec 7, 2008 at 6:13 am #1462687
@peter_panLocale: Co-Owner Jacks 'R' Better, LLC, VA
FWIW, currently the No Sniveller is $ 70 off…. This sale ends noon tomorrow.
PanDec 7, 2008 at 6:40 am #1462689
@pbrown19Locale: Traverse City MI
Thermal bottoms and an R1 hoody. I was also using a bivy over the quilt. Of course, some people are warmer sleepers than others, so YMMV.Dec 7, 2008 at 9:08 am #1462708
Guy LadenBPL Member
Make sure its girth will work for you at the shoulders. When I'm on my side I sometimes wish there was more material for tucking under me. One option here is to consider the Jrb 'quilt wings'. I believe the Ultra is wider.Dec 7, 2008 at 5:16 pm #1462801
Jamie ShorttBPL Member
@jshorttLocale: North Carolina
As far as the Golite Ultra 20…I had it down to exactly 20 degrees at 5500 feet with significant wind. I was sleeping inside a MLD bivy under a ID silponcho tarp. As far as clothing goes, I was wearing baselayer with a light fleece cap and my montbell UL down inner. Ground insulation was light, 3/8" GG thinlight trimmed to 38" long (3.4 oz).
I slept fine and I tend to get cold. I think if the temp dropped much more I would need a few more extra garments to stay warm. I'd say that is pretty good for 18.65 oz (i dropped the under straps) and <$200 on sale.
JamieDec 8, 2008 at 7:52 am #1462897
I went with the JRB No Sniv. Thanks for all the input.
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