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PostedOct 19, 2008 at 11:18 am

Okay, so I used this site extensively to plan my PCT hike, which I finished early October. For the most part, you guys rock, but a few things I didn't love or just plan hated. Here is my feedback:

THE GOOD:
TIGOAT POLES–so sweet, light, and don't make NOISE! Ever heard Leki's? you can hear your friends from a mile. I did snap one, but would have snapped anything with the fall I took
SIMBLISSITY GAITERS-awesome, better and more durable than dirty girls
RAILRIDERS ECOMESH WINDSHIRT-great piece, i wore it the whole way, great for bugs, huge temperature range, dries fast, looks very zen, kept me warmer than a hiking shirt, and about as cool
PATI HOUDINI WINDSHIRT-great as well, with the railriders it was 95% of what i wore
PATI R1 HOODY-also a great piece, very versatile, i tried replacing it with a loner montbell down jacket my friend let me use, but the hoody was more versatile, gave me neck and head and hand protection, and worked better in the rain. it seemed about the same weight.
WM ALPINLITE 20 DEGREE DOWN BAG-good, but was it worth 400 bucks, i don't know. not great when wet b/c not that much down. it was good through oregon, but it got to about 20 degrees one night and i froze. i replaced it with my oldschool bag for washington.
JET BOIL-so not light, but so convenient. i alternated it with an alcohol stove, but just loved the jet boil. i'm a sucker for hot liquids, and had coffee at break, hot cider after dinner, etc. an alcohol stove was great when down south when i wanted light and i didn't mind sitting around waiting a little more. but in washington, i was all jet boil.
ULA CIRCUIT-i destroy bags, and this bag is money. nobody witha a ula would complain, and the service is great. light with a good ability to keep the weight on your hips.
TILLEY AIRFLOW-i liked it, i used it the whole time. it keeps sweat off your face, rain off, sun off. my friends tried cheap hats from supermarkets and such, but ended up trying to replace them over and over. my friend had 4 hats, all destroyed, over the course of the pct.
DARN TOUGH SHORTY SOCKS-i like these, and durable.

THE BAD:
Pati zip offs-garbage, seems ripped in 80 miles
SMARTWOOL ADRENALINE SOCKS-cause blisters as the rolled top lets dirt into your sock, but held up okay. i used gaiters too.
TARPTENT CONTRAIL–I think i may get kicked off for dissing henry shires, but here goes. good for emergencies, but i don't like it. it takes a physics degree to put up. it's great for bugs, but those little legs on the back are a bad design. silnylon stretches too much, and even with a clove hitch to a pole and tying out the sides, it sags onto your bag. I think the Rainbow is good however.
MONTRAIL HARDROCKS-the tale of 2 shoes. the first pair got me 450 miles and i had to carry shoegoo after 200 because all the treads fell off. but i had huge blister problems and got another pair anyway. the second pair gave me 850 miles (albeit that is stretching it), and held up great. rei stopped carrying these after too many problems, and i think columbia's purchase of montrail has probably decreased production quality. i would look for another shoe personally, as i want to rely on my shoes.
INNOV8-hated em. fell apart in 300 miles, so little cushion. if you have bomber feet that just don't hurt, you may love them. i have wimpy feet, and my feet were miserable in them even though my test hike in them was good.
MARMOT PRECIPS-why do people like these? they absorbed water, and were heavy, and not cheap. i may as well have worn a wool sweater. I would probably go cheaper with frogg toggs. or i would ask a rich uncle to buy me a goretex packlight, which is pricey, or golite gear.the pants were better for whatever reason, but the waist was strange. there is no cinch, just velcro, and they popped off when you pee. and they sag down on your butt. i would come up with different raingear.

Steven Evans BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2008 at 12:38 pm

Patrick – excellent comments. The big hikes really push gear to their limits. Congrats on completing the trail!!
I remember a while back you posted about setting your pack on fire…I'm sure it was a serious event, but the way it was written in the thread, I almost fell out of my chair. :)

it's here…

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=15762&skip_to_post=117932#117932

PostedOct 19, 2008 at 5:15 pm

Thanks Patrick… very useful to hear your feedback! I'm happy to see that I have (or am planning to get) a number of items in your "GOOD" list and none of the items in your "BAD"!

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2008 at 6:00 pm

Ignore David Ure. Who the heck cares about trip reports anyway? This is the G Spot — Gear, Gear, Gear!

Excellent write up — extra points for brevity — stings right to the core.

Interesting reference to ULA bag — as in luggage. Most people call it a pack, to differentiate from the bag that we sleep in. :)

Mary D BPL Member
PostedOct 19, 2008 at 8:02 pm

We need more of these post-hike gear reviews from those who've gone the distance! So many through-hikers are too busy trying to adapt to civilization after 4-6 months on the trail to bother. THANK YOU for posting!

Another good post-through-hike review is here–I just happened to find these two women's online journal of their CDT trip and followed them through. Their "gear" section contains a quite thorough review of their gear after the trip:
http://www.trailjournals.com/entry.cfm?id=256102 In addition to the post, click on "Gear" in the left hand column.

PostedOct 22, 2008 at 7:25 pm

I also finished the PCT this year in September, and have been putting off gear reviews until I saw this thread.

TiGoat Poles: I had many issues with these. They were fine until about 800 miles into the hike. Hiking early in the High Sierra saw the expanders constantly getting wet in deep snow on the passes, and then the poles would start to slip if I put weight onto them. This was a huge letdown since I really needed to trust the poles on the stream crossings and slippery terrain. Knowing this, I would just make sure I was constantly retightening them before I would really really need to trust them. One of the poles snapped on the lower shaft, and I'm not really sure why since at the time I didn't fall or get it wedged between or rocks or anything. Customer service was AMAZING and they went out of their way to repair my pole since the lower shaft had gotten stuck inside the upper portion. Later in Oregon around Crater Lake, another shaft splintered when it was stepped on by another clumbsy thru-hiker. Not TiGoats fault, but I gave up on them at this point. I couldn't afford to keep dropping $40 on their poles, and I assumed they'd break again somewhere. Plus I really got annoyed with the expanders that kept slipping on me. Great design, I loved the weight, and customer service. But just not for me on a long-distance hike.

ULA Amp: I used the Amp, customized with wider straps that are usually put on every other ULA pack. This pack was perfect for me. With a 7-8 lb base weight, I was able to push this to a 6 day resupply, even with a hefty water carry out of Tehachapi. The slim and tall profile I found to be very comfortable and allowed me to be very agile. Somewhere in Oregon the grommet stitching on the front gave out where the compression system is attached and tightened. I did some repair work on it, and eventually it pulled through again. This is the only design flaw I found in the pack. The thinner dynema couldn't quite hold the stitching when stress was placed on it. Also, I had to reinforce the shoulder straps with dental floss about 1000 miles into the hike, which held until the end. Overall, I was very surprised that this 12 oz pack made it all 3,000 miles on the PCT and PNT.

Macabi Skirt: i LOVED wearing a skirt. I'm a guy converting to a long skirt from using a kilt on the AT last year, and loved the coverage of the long skirt in the desert. Didn't need sunblock, was stylish, and oh so well ventilated. If I wasn't worried about the sun, I could clip the skirt up the sides to make it into a kilt. Very very functional, and I had lots of guys asking me where they could find one. I wouldn not hesitate to wear this again on future hikes…I can care less what people think of me on the trail or in trail towns. I was comfortable and I highly recommend this skirt.

Railriders shirt: This shirt was amazing, wore it every single day for 5+ months. I'll still be wearing it in future hikes. The quality is top-notch. I was comfortable in all sorts of conditions, and it was a decent base layer to sleep in. Getting white was a great call in the absurd blue skies of southern california. Highly recommended.

RailRiders eco-mesh pants: I switched to these in the High Sierra to avoid embarassment during any of the 203985823 falls that I took in the snow. Not as comfy as the Macabi skirt, but as comfy as pants can get. I absolutely hate hiking in pants if its above 40 deg, but these were very enjoyable to wear. If pants are needed in the future I'd wear these. Plus, the fabric is really really soft and comfy.

Bushbuddy stove: I really like this stove, and found it was perfect for the high desert. There is chapperal everywhere, which burned quickly and smelled beautiful. There was a point on the trail where I really looked forward to cooking at night just to experience the incense-like smell of manzanita or whatever else was around. A great experience and fun. Eventually I ditched the stove at Kennedy Meadows, and did the rest of the hike without a stove. Sometimes I did wish for the convenience of an alcohol stove, but I knew that going in. The woodstove was all for the experience, and it came through beautifully. A great piece of equipment if it's your thing.

Titanium Goat Ptarmigan Bivy: Great bivy. This was my first bivy, and I was worried that I'd get screwed by being cheap and going for this over the MLD momentum bivy. Well, this bivy was fine and saved me some money in the process. A bivy is great in the west where humidity is at a minimum so I didn't worry very much at all about the breathabilty of the fabric. For options I had the full bug netting sewn in as well as a sidezip, both I can't imagine going without. In the intense bugs of Oregon, I slept in my bivy with headnetting all zipped up, not even bothering to suspend the mesh from my face from a branch or tarp. It was just fine lying on my face after being treated with permithrin. Sidezip was equally fantastic and really helped aid me when placing my sleeping pad inside every night. This bivy held up every day, even after stealthing on things like pavement, etc. No holes at all on the floor or top fabric. Great bivy, great price.

MLD Poncho tarp: didn't set this up a single time until somewhere in Northern Cali. Used it twice as a poncho. First time was fine with minimal wind, second time was during a nightmarish thunderstorm on top of a ridge. Winds were very very intense, and the poncho was an absolute nightmare to deal with. Just putting the thing on was horrible, despite the fact that I tried to find a windblock, etc. Although it has clips all over to try to secure it, as well as a cord around the waist to keep it next to your body, I was still unhappy with it. A poncho would be fine when under trees back east or somewhere else, but it wasn't for me above treeline. Maybe I just need practice with it? As a shelter I was very happy. I was worried that it would be too tight of a squeeze after using a MLD solo-plus size, but it was fine. Sure I wish there was more space, but I could deal. Unpacking things under it was a bit too tight, as well packing up in the morning if I had it pitched low. No problems with water leaking in near the hood. The quality of course is fantastic.

Golite Whim wind pants: Got these in northern washington when I anticipated rains coming in. They were okay in drizzle, but worthless once they got very wet. Of course I knew they weren't waterproof, but I was hoping they would help me get by. Walking through lots of wet brush would get the wet all the way through, and then they would stick uncomfortably to my legs, limiting movement. Couple this with the fact that this sucks away body heat, and it didn't take me long to look for a new solution. I wound up going back to the old trashbag skirt, sometimes layered on top of these pants for additional warmth. This worked pretty well for me. Next time maybe I'd use a UL trash bag skirt with chaps? The pants are comfortable though!

O2 Rainshield jacket: Got this for the last 600 miles or so in WA. Rainproof, fairly breathable, but not good for cutting wind. With the cut being a bit loose, wind could sneak in. On the other hand, it being a bit looser was good for helping me not overheat as fast when hiking. Quality is a bit sketchy, but thats expected for a jacket that costs $20. After lashing it on the top of my pack multiple times, the yellow outer layer started to rip away from the other layer. This is my fault obviously. The exposed parts on the sleeves are small, and I still use the jacket to waterproof. Next time I'd pry just order a smaller size, but still stick with this jacket for the weight.

Nunatak Arc Alpinist: Still a great quilt. Although I used a JRB Shenandoah quilt for most of the hike, I really loved having this thicker quilt when I did. I simplified my setup by ditching the smartwool bottoms and thermawrap jacket when carrying the Alpinist, which worked fine for me. Since I hiked during all hours of daylight, it was no problem to rely on the quilt for warmth at night. And give me warmth it did, especially when coupled with the bivy.

Inov-8 Roclite 315: Loved this shoe. Sure it's not very well padded, but that didn't bother me much. When used in tandem with superfeet, these shoes fit me perfectly. I started out with a pair of Terroc 330s, but decided to switch after the first 600 miles. The Terroc's mesh ripped after about 300 miles, which let in too much dirt. I found the 315 to last longer than that pair of 330s. Over the course of my 3,100 mile hike, I went through 4 pairs of shoes. You do the math! Now I think I push my shoes a bit further than most, and did have some pain for a week or so toward the end of a shoe cycle, but I was more than comfortable putting 600 miles on a pair, which I found very respectable. Again, the Superfeet were a big help in keeping support underfoot when normally there would be none with those weak factory insoles. Another huge plus was the tread. They have some of the deepest lugs I've ever seen on shoes, and the tread would never wear out, even after 900 miles. This is huge to me since I've turned Montrail Hardrocks into slicks after 500 miles, even though the shoes felt fine to my feet. I'll stick with the 315s in the future.

ULA bottle holsters: I like having the water on shoulder straps when using a frameless pack to take 2 lbs off of my back. It's slightly more of a pain in the a**, but worth it for balancing the weight. If i were using a pack with a frame, I don't think I'd mess with it and keep things simple with a single 1 L bottle in a side pocket. Didn't miss a leaky platy though!

Cheapo Mexican Sombrero: Hated using an umbrella in socal, so picked up an $8 straw hat 50 miles into it. This hat gave about as much shade as an umbrella, but I didnt have to hold it, or even worse, do some cumbersome attaching to the shoulder straps. The straw was very breathable, and I liked the fact that nothing was draped over my neck like the popular Sunday Afternoons Hat does. Eventually I ripped the laminated seam off the brim, giving the hat a sweet Huck Finn look, as well as making it more bendable in the wind. The only downside was that this thing acted like a sail in the wind, only held onto my head by the chinstrap. This cheapo, great hat, lasted me over 2,000 miles, although beaten up with much more character than it started with! Would do this again when doing any desert hiking.

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Dirty Girl gaiters: These worked well for me, but I believe I was the only person out there who didn't have problems. The only problem I encountered were getting holes in the speedo fabric when bushwacking, getting caught on blowdowns, etc. Still, one pair of gaiters lasted me over 3,000 mi, and I was happy to have saved the money and increased style points over the Simblissity gaiters. Many other friends had the clip coming off that secured the gaitor to shoe laces. Apparently the woman who runs the company is very responsive, and oftentimes sends another pair for free, a replacement part, etc. I'd recommend them, especially if you aren't a thru-hiker.

Jay Wilkerson BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2008 at 7:33 pm

First-CONGRATS!!!!!!! on your PCT Hike- I am jealous!!! And thanks for all the great info on your gear. One can learn alot form somebody who really Walk the Walk!! Thanks again.

PostedOct 22, 2008 at 7:43 pm

Thanks so much guys!

It's very refreshing to hear gear reviews that evolved during the course of thousands of miles.

As an aspiring thru-hiker it is of immense value to hear such honest feedback.

Eric, How did you like the Smartwools for sleeping? Was the wool too fragile for such a long trip? Thanks.

PostedOct 22, 2008 at 8:49 pm

The Smartwhool bottoms held up fine, and have been great for the past 2 yrs of thru-hiking. There is a hole in one of the legs which I'm not sure how it got there. Maybe I snagged them on a branch? no telling, but I've been using them up here in Alaska on dayhikes, and plan to keep using them in the future. Perhaps microlight ones wouldn't have held up so well?

Jeff Jeff BPL Member
PostedOct 22, 2008 at 9:41 pm

Congrats on finishing. It's nice to see people give feedback on how their gear worked. Hopefully some 2009 hopefulls will find this thread.

How did you like the combo of the bivy and the quilt? I am thinking about switching to the extact same setup for my PCT section hikes. Was the bivy big enough for the quilt? Did the quilt stay tucked under to keep the warm air for escaping? How did you keep your head warm?

Jonathan Ryan BPL Member
PostedOct 23, 2008 at 4:51 am

congrats on your thru Eric. Glad to hear the 315's worked so well for you as they are quickly becoming my fav shoe. From trail running to casual hiking they are awesome. I am amazed by the durability they gave you. Thats pretty awesome…

PostedOct 23, 2008 at 9:44 am

Jeff: I really liked the combo of the Arc Alpinist and the TiGoat Bivy. Like I mentioned in a previoius post, I primarily used a much smaller and thinner JRB quilt. The Arc Alpinist was much wider, often times I felt it was too wide and a waste of weight. But, the nice thing was that it wasn't so difficult to keep it tucked under me. On really cold nights I'd actually bother securing the quilt under me with the buckle setup. If I could do it all over again, I'd get the quilt with some UL fabric flaps sewn to the edges to keep it tucked under me instead of the strap setup…something I saw one guy with on the AT.

The bivy had enough space inside to accomodate the thick quilt and my 6'1" frame and size 12 shoes. If I had to use the mesh headnetting though, it steals a couple of inches of space lengthwise, so be aware of that. But…I only had to use the bugnetting when the mosquitos were bad, and when I had the netting zipped closed, it was pretty hot inside and I rarely even had the quilt all the way on me, so down compression wasn't an issue.

Mary D BPL Member
PostedOct 23, 2008 at 5:29 pm

Thank you both for posting! You through-hikers are "The Ultimate Backpacking Gear Test"!

Eric, your issue with the Ti Goat poles sounds just like the complaints I've been hearing about the REI/Komperdell CF poles–that they are really prone to slip, especially when wet. Is this, perhaps, a characteristic of carbon fiber? Maybe I'll stick with my 19 oz. Leki Makalus after all.

PostedOct 23, 2008 at 5:43 pm

I found it surprising that you had slippage issues with the AGPs. I have used mine extensively snowshoeing in wet conditions and never had that problem. Did you try sanding down the outside of the expanders a little bit to give them more purchase?
My profile pic was on the PCT in SoCal. I envy you guys and hope that one day I can find the time to hit the whole thing. congrats!

PostedOct 23, 2008 at 6:50 pm

Phil: no I never tried sanding down the expanders a bit for more purchase, and I believe that DJ from tigoat may have recommended this as well. With so many things going on while thru-hiking, a few of these things slipped my mind. I'm really hesitant to say that these poles are flawed..and that maybe there was a learning curve to them and aspects of them that I didn't completely figure out? I must say that I absolutely loved the poles in southern california, but this was mainly when I never collapsed my poles. In the High Sierra I was playing with them more when having to bust out an ice axe and throw them on my pack. Again, I can't totally blame the poles being wet to blame for them slipping, but I never had issues until I hit deep snow. Hopefully others on here can chime in and say they haven't had these problems.

PS…for the last 500 miles, I switched to heavy 10 yr old Lekis that a friend let me borrow. I found that I never cared about the extra weight all that much in my hands and I loved the bomber feel of them. If I would have been strapping them to my pack often, I may have felt differently though!

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