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Bivy plus for use without a tarp?

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PostedSep 28, 2008 at 7:41 pm

I’m curious about what to use for bike touring. I currently use a BMW bivy and a small silnylon tarp, but find the combination fiddly and annoying. I’m always rolling the bivy over and wiggling out from under the tarp. I have staked the corners down with shock-cord attachments, but can’t seem to find a way to alleviate any of the problems without feeling like I’m going to tear the bivy. Since I’m biking, I sometimes end up in state parks or campgrounds for camping and it can be hard to find a good spot in the numbered campsite areas for setting up the tarp.

I’m looking for something that has enough structure that I won’t turn it over when I turn in my sleep and that provides bug protection. It doesn’t need to be freestanding but I’d rather not rely on trying to rig up replacements for hiking poles – most of the UL 1 person tents on the market seem to rely on either hiking poles or a carbon fiber replacement. If I have to use one of those, the 2-4 oz. weight addition needs to be taken into account. I also use a handlebar bag/tail bag combo that would make it hard to carry poles, and my bike frame is pretty small so the places I could lash poles to are limited. As a note for tent size, I’m a smallish female and have never had an issue with things being too small.

The current packed bike:

Dolce tour packing

Nemo Gogo – Currently top of my list. I love the vestibule design and how it packs into a small, soft bundle that could fit nicely into my tail bag. I don’t know how the fabric will handle New England rain, which can be more than that of Seattle.

eVent Unishelter – I’m a big fan of eVent, but I hate the entry. It looks like any amount of rain or wet clothing would guarantee a wet sleeping bag, along with having to shuffle off shoes in some sort of weird dance. It also weighs more than the Gogo.

Hennessy Adventure Racer hammock – Looks luxurious, but I’m afraid of sleeping cold and given my issues finding places to put the tarp in (K)ampground style places, I’m probably going to have the same issue.

Does anyone have any opinions, info, or other suggestions to go in here? Am I really crazy to think about replacing my 18 ounce bivy/tarp combo with something that weighs a minimum of 2 pounds?

PostedSep 28, 2008 at 7:54 pm

I have 2 thoughts at first glance and I bikepack quite a bit. Nice CD seat bag. (Also consider checking out bikepacking.net, it's new but growing).

First get a tarptent sublite and learn how to rig it up in hard ground, etc.

Second is just carry a Black Diamond firstlight (or OneShot?) and live up the luxury and deal with the weight. I've brought the firstlight bikepacking with my wife and I never really regret sleeping in a nice solid tent that's easy to pitch. I do leave it behind on solo trips most of the time since I'd rather just suffer vs carry 2.5lbs extra compared to my emergency bivy sack.

Poles for either can be lashed under the toptube I'm pretty sure since you can get breakdown ones. I've also hung my firstlight poles from my handlebars without issue.

I don't have a Sublite but I'm having a good old internal debate on what to get that's got more protection than my bivy only setup at less weight than my firstlight without needing treking poles. The sublite looks like a great compromise as a light, inexpensive, waterproof enough and big enough shelter for my warped desires.

adam blanton BPL Member
PostedSep 28, 2008 at 9:27 pm

I'd recommend the contrail, the sub-lite requires two hiking poles for setup where with the contrail you'll only need a single pole. You can order the pole through the tarptent site, the length of the folded pole is 42cm. You should be able to strap it to your front or rear bag easily.

This would be slightly lighter and less bulky than your firstlight. You'd also have plenty of space for your gear inside and under the vestibule of the tarptent. The tarptent materials are very thin… Anything sturdier would probably put you back up in the 2.5 lb+ arena.

The gogo sounds like it would work well to meet your needs, but I've never used this bivy.

Cool setup with your bike!

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