Clothing choices…

I am a super ultralighter so if I see anything that cant break the 5 pound barrier I feel I must say something.

your list seems good and very versatile but not the lightest options.

for pants your REI zip offs are fine, but for additional warmth I recomend a tight like under armour or similar(but for 3 season use you may not need)

for your torso I recomend a Bozeman mountain works Cocoon or mont bell thermawrap jacket. and I use a poncho tarp as rain wear and add a golite wisp windshirt

SuperUltraLight: Breaking the Five-Pound Barrier

Hey Zak theres alot of good information on the web about going lightweight. There is a nice article about lightweight clothing systems here on BPL but it is restricted to memebers. I recommend subscribing if you are serious about it. Its worth it.
That being said here is a link to a great page done by another member here on BPL that can help. Mark Verber’s website

Getting a nice clothing system can be somewhat expensive, but I recommend you to not be cheap about it. It is better to do it right the first time and buy quality gear. Otherwise you’ll end up wasting time and money on stuff you’ll replace anyways. Its a painful lesson I have learned the hard way.

Hope this helps,

-Roy-

sorry I dident notice you werent a member Zak you wont be able to veiw my link

I recomend paying the $25 for a membership. I have found that I have paid it back and have saved even more money in savings from the gear shop

>>Getting a nice clothing system can be somewhat expensive, but I recommend you to not be cheap about it. It is better to do it right the first time and buy quality gear. Otherwise you’ll end up wasting time and money on stuff you’ll replace anyways. Its a painful lesson I have learned the hard way.

There’s a danger to getting the nice stuff: you’ll need two copies for trail and town use! I’ve fallen in love with so much of my technical clothing that I’ve been keeping some of it pristine for everyday wear, such as my new Smartwool shirt. I’ll just have to get another one to keep pretty for traveling. Same goes for nice socks and warm layers.

>>”There’s a danger to getting the nice stuff: you’ll need two copies for trail and town use!”

agreed. its happened on this end too. have around town/work/sunday-go-to-meeting versions of what i wear on the trail. however, sure makes deciding what to wear easier.

this is not always a problem.
I really like my trail running shoes because they are very comforatable and fit my feet very well. I wear them while backpacking and everywhere else. this breaks them in more and makes them less likely to give me blisters.

I have never gotten a blister using these shoes, and never even a hot spot when matched with wrightsock double layer coolmesh socks

Thanks for the quick responses guys. I checked out that article that you posted. It looks like I should add a Windshirt or something like that. I know the fleece is probably a little bit heavier than optimal but it seems to do a pretty good job. Any recomendations on flexible stores that wouldn’t mind a return after mild use? I just don’t feel like spending another $200 on another layer and finding out I like my fleece more.

Thanks

One suggestion if you are interested in cutting weight and bulk, and don’t mind spending money.

Replace your fleece with a MontBell Thermawrap jacket — it’s about half the weight of your fleece and much more packable (compact). I’m not familiar with the temp performance of your fleece, but the Thermawrap is good down to 35-40F by itself, and to 30F-35F when worn under a wp/b shell.

you may also want to consider a possum down sweater from the backpacking light gear shop

Possum down sweater

also, if you dont want to use a poncho tarp, try the drop stoppers jacket instead of your marmot precip (only $15 & 5oz )

Drop stoppers

there is a good sale at AR gear
here is a link to the insulated outerwear

Insulating Jackets

When will we see the possum down balaclava?