Huge sale on Propper Tactical Clothing

[Jason Ferren]

Deleted as being just a bit too far away from BPL core values.

Roger Caffin
Online Community Monitor

[Slo Hiker]

I just gotta ask ….. how could an apparel product infringe on someone's core values? The Propper brand that I'm familiar with makes military & casual/outdoor clothing … am I missing something?

[CW]

I think they mean that "tactical" clothing is far from the "lightweight" mantra BPL supports.

[Jeff Vince]

Roger, could you tell me what "Core Values" I should have here???

AC

[Roger Caffin]

> Roger, could you tell me what "Core Values" I should have here???

Quite simple. BPL's focus is on lightweight backcountry travel without machinery and with minimal impact on the environment.

Cheers

[Joe Clement]

I wanted to ask that and didn't have the nerve. But since I am wearing my Propper pleated dress khakis here at work, I figured it was safe to post. Bet the OP uses the word "cargo" instead of that "t" word next time.

[Doug Johnson]

wow

[Dustin F]

I am a little annoyed this post was removed before any of us could see it. It hadn't broken any rules as far as I can tell. Other than not being uber light atire or showing a profitable interest for BPL what was the reason this post was removed?

"Announcements of online & local sales, coupons, etc. Commercial posts OK, but ONLY if you are announcing a sale or coupon."

Those are the only rules I see listed for this forum and I have seen MANY other posts that arent at the "core" of our values.

I will not be renewing my subscription to this website nor will I be ordering anything else. The content has gone to crap and the rediculous moderation that exists only to serve the best interests of this profit machine have become so much that I know longer wish to support what BPL has become.

[Bill Fornshell]

I didn't read the original post but can tell you that if you are into 'bushwacking" "Tactical Clothing"? or some of the old army stuff is the way to go.

I think it is time to "vote" Roger off the island.

[mark henley]

Nothing like Canvas Duck to hold up to bushwacking.

I used an old "tactical" (Army Surplus) rucksack through 4 years of college ….. beaten and worn, but it never gave up.

Try that with a regular daypack.

[Timothy Foutz]

Repost the link. No one takes down the dozens of Steapandcheap links. Please do that. They are pointless. Some of us may want to buy some heavy duty cargo style pants to protect our tender skin when bushwhacking.

[Paul Smith]

Dance around the rhetoric all you want, we all know that the difference here is the implied use of the gear. I am glad he deleted it, I don't need to be reminded of the things I backpack away from when I come here.

[Bill Fornshell]

If anyone has the link that was posted or the company name send it to me in a PM.

Thanks.

[Roger Caffin]

For those who are interested, this image is taken from their Home page (with acknowledgement of course):

However, discussion is welcome.

Cheers

[Bill Fornshell]

Hi Roger,
I would like to look at the web site and make up my own mind,
Thank you

[twig .]

I'm sure you could Google "Tactical clothing sale" if you are in the market for some cheap army surplus. Moving on……

[EndoftheTrail]

I'm with Roger. This site is BackpackingLIGHT. If folks want anything and everything to stick so they can decide for themselves — then there are plenty of general backpacking / outdoor forums that they can go to.

One suggestion for the mods — when deleting a thread, it's probably better just to delete it entirely — and maybe PM a friendly reminder/explanation to the OP. Methinks the way it is now just makes the original poster look bad in a very prolonged way.

[Christopher Holden]

Contact your local military recruiter. Not only can they get you access to a supply of tactical clothing, but they pay you to play with all the neat little tactical toys too!

[Slo Hiker]

My initial gut reaction was (and continues to be …) that this product/product line was somehow offensive to someone and was deleted in the spirit of PC.

If all of the "irrelevant" postings were removed from this site (and most other forums, by the way …) there wouldn't be nearly as much to look at here!

If I can weed through the countless posts from the posers without having bad dreams, perhaps one could just move on to something else if "tactical" doesn't sit well with your personal sense of right and wrong …. or your notions of appropriateness.

Lastly, I have no intention of getting into a semantics contest with anyone, but "tactical" is no more or less ambiguous than "lightweight".

[Ken Thompson]

WTF Roger, Did you even look at their site? I did and found nothing offensive. Granted they don't sell anything that could be considered ultralight, but neither do a lot of other links that get posted here.

[Russell Swanson]

Obviously there are some people here who are interested in possibly acquiring some of Propper's goods for use under certain conditions. The company even sells products such as base layers, insulated pants, windshirts, and a Gore Tex jacket that supposedly weighs under a pound. They even use the word 'ultralite' to describe the jacket. It might not be Montbell or BMW quality stuff but I think it's valid here.

I'm all for maintaining focus but I don't think editing this post was a good decision. War sucks and people who dress up to pretend they're in a war are very suspect in my book but I'd rather not have BPL's content edited in such a judicious manner. Just my freedom-of-speech-whoring two cents.

[Russell Swanson]

Paul Smith posted- 'Dance around the rhetoric all you want, we all know that the difference here is the implied use of the gear. I am glad he deleted it, I don't need to be reminded of the things I backpack away from when I come here.'

This is a good point. Ben Tang made a similar one. However, I would argue that we be able to censor ourselves. Is BPL your typical troll-stalked temper tantrum zone? The level of maturity on this site is rather high IMO. I understand the desire to keep BPL 'pure' or whatever but I think we do a good job of policing ourselves.

[Denis Hazlewood]

If Propper gets deleted can Cabela's be far behind?

[t.darrah]

There are numerous companies that make hiking specific gear that also make military equipment/gear. Wildthings, Integral Designs, Gregory, Camelbak and others to name a few. Should these companies or gear they make be edited when mentioned on BPL?

[Christopher Holden]

I don't think it was the site that was offensive. I saw the original ad. I interpreted it as spam. The only thing even remotely related to BPL would be clothing… and "tactical" clothing tends to weigh more, not less, than other clothing. Feel free to go browsing the web in search of it if that's what you need, but I prefer to keep pointless posts where they belong: elsewhere.
If you look at the profile of the original poster, you'll see that single post was the extent of their contribution to this forum. Nothing before and nothing since.

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