I'm very interested in this pile/pertex concept as practiced by Buffalo. (And I found out you can mail order from the UK!) However, I've seen people post that the traditional Buffalo shirt is pretty warm. Anyone have experience with the lighter Teclite shirt or other equivalent? Use would be primarily spring and fall.
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I've been using Buffalo clothing on and off for many years. The Pertex/pile stuff is very warm – think windproof shell with 300 weight fleece as a comparison. Pertex/pile is great when it's cold enough, which for me is around freezing with a strong wind and rain/sleet. The Teclite clothing is similar to Marmot's Driclime Windshirt. It's much cooler than Pertex/Pile and should be fine for autumn and spring. It's not as water resistant or as warm when wet as Pertex/pile though. It does dry fast and it is windproof.
You probably have it, but just incase you don’t here is the Buffalo website. I’ve worn the Mountain Shirt, very warm, but not the Techlite range.
Chris and i posted at the same time. What’s the chances of that happening? It must be Buffalo time here in Scotland! :)
Ok, now that you mention Driclime I have to ask: is the Driclime in the UK the same as over here? I've seen it mentioned as an equivalent to the Teclite and Rab vapour rise materials. Because of that I recently got a Marmot Driclime Original Windshirt. (A pullover with open pit vents and no drawcords.) It has a very thin inner lining which is like a piece of felt-like material with a pile maybe 1mm deep. Also this inner liner is only attached to the shell at the seams so there is an air gap between the two layers. This seems like it will not effectively wick to the shell as required by the pertex/pile concept.
http://marmot.com/fall_2008/mens/outerwear/wind/original_driclime_windshirt
(note it doesn't say pertex anywhere)
Does that also describe the Teclite material? I was thinking it would be more like a sheepskin rug (albeit with short fur)
Further to Driclime variants, the third reviewer down on this link says that driclime has changed a lot (and for the worse) over the years making me think maybe the UK still has the old pile/pertex style driclime and we have a newer substitute over here!?
Oh, yeah, I have seen the Buffalo site. It all sounds pretty cool. Wish they had more detailed photos of the material though.
It's almost Miller time here!
Teclite is roughly equivalent to DriClime – the lining is very thin. Rab Vapour Rise is a little thicker but not much. The pile in Buffalo Pertex/Pile is much, much thicker. I'd say Pertex/Pile was over twice as warm as Teclite.
Mike, I bet you don't post at the same time now!
Hmm, ok, so then there's probably no point in getting a Teclite if I already have a Driclime. I imagined these were just like the pertex/pile but with shorter pile but instead they are a little different.
Maybe this will be motivation to get me into winter backpacking so I can try out a full scale pile/pertex!
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