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Big Agnes Copper Spur UL2 or MSR Hubba Hubba HP?

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PostedJun 27, 2008 at 4:04 pm

I need to purchase a free-standing, two-person, two-side-doors tent (I'd really prefer a fly-sheet-first design, but the ones from Hilleberg are too heavy) for hiking with my wife, and have narrowed it down to the BIg Agnes Copper Spur UL2 or the MSR Hubba Hubba HP. I like the weight, length, slightly bigger vestibule (though one seems smaller than the other), and fly sheet material of the Copper Spur, but the even width, stronger pole, and more protective inner tent of the Hubba Hubba HP. Anyone have any thoughts on either of these two tents? Thanks for your advice.

John G BPL Member
PostedJun 27, 2008 at 5:18 pm

My wife and I found the Hubba Hubba too narrow for us. It narrows in the center to about 43-45" and is only 50" wide at the ends. We went with the MRR lightning (2 ounces less than the Hubba Hubba, 1 ounce more than the HP), but it only has 1 door. It can be pitched rainfly & footprint 1st, and then clip up the bug tent from underneath though :) The off center zip in the fly on the Lightning is great for keeping your pack out of the entry / exit path, but it's slope makes it easy to get your back wet when entering & exiting.

If I was buying a double wall today, I'd look really hard at the new REI quarter dome. It's basically as wide as the Lightning, but has two doors, high vents, may be able to be pitched fly first (ie: clip, no sleeves) and has slightly more vertical walls. The fly has a center zip, so it's probably easier to enter & exit, if your pack isn't in the way.

EndoftheTrail BPL Member
PostedJun 27, 2008 at 6:40 pm

Miguel:

For 3-season use, do you think you really need the "solid fabric" inner? If so, then I guess the HP would be the way to go.

OTOH, if you are OK with mesh (my experience with the BA Seedhouse is that a combination of mesh and fly will actually block almost all winds) then why not save 6 ounces of weight and $50 in cost by going with the BA Copper Spur?

OTOH, if mesh is OK and 6 ounces either way isn't absolutely critical, then I would actually suggest looking at the much cheaper REI Quarter Dome T2 — fairly comparable space at a lot cheaper price. REI, as you know, isn't quite as sexy, but it too has its legion of enthusiastic fans.

PostedJun 28, 2008 at 3:08 pm

Ben seems like a Big Agnes fan, but my wife and I love our Hubba Hubba (mesh, not HP). We found the space to be plenty adequate. It is rather narrow admittedly, but if you stake down the fly well on either side, it widens the tent. When you put your pads down, the tent will resist the tendency to pull in on the sides.

My sister and her husband recently bought the Big Agnes Seedhouse SL2; however, I have my doubts as to whether they will have enough space to live comfortably. Also, the SL2 only has one door.

I will be visiting her in Denver in about two weeks and the four of us will do some backpacking together in Coloarad. So we'll soon find out which is the better tent.

Having said this, I would also recommend the new REI Quarter Dome. It claims to be several ounces lighter than the Hubba Hubba. I plan on taking my digital scale to REI to verify this.

David

PostedJun 28, 2008 at 11:21 pm

Thanks everyone for your advice. It's admittedly been quite a number of years since I've looked at a double wall tent for two, so I haven't been up on the developments. I'm still up in the air about both the Hubba Hubba HP (which is lighter and stronger than the mesh Hubba Hubba) and the Copper Spur (which tapers in at the foot end), but the REI Quarter Dome really intrigues me. It just very well might be what I am looking for. Does anyone have any idea about the "coated nylon" fly? How does it compare to the Big Agnes silnylon polyurethane coated fly (which I think is much stronger and more waterproof)?

I like the Hubba Hubba HP's solid inner because of the warmth it provides (my wife is a very cold sleeper) and the protection against windblown dust (of which there is a lot on the packed alpine campsites in Japan).

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