Super durable close foam pad?

I think most here would consider evazote closed cell foam to have the best combination of durability and lightness. It's available at gossamergear.com and other places. I use the NightLight torso pad and love it.

Actually, the el cheapo blue foam pad is practically indestructible. Light as heck too.

John, Nightlight reviews on this website are putting me off.

Ben, I am not sure – is blue foam pad as warm as ridgerest?

Yeah, those reviews are mixed. I wonder if GG has changed the foam or used different manufacturers over the years. Mine has done well and I have never noticed significant irreversible loft compression. Of course it is not as comfy as a thicker foam or inflatables.

The ridgerest will have a higher R value and will be more cushy at the cost of weighing more. I hike with some people who do like their ridgerests.

I use pieces of the Walmart blue foam pads for sit pads. It's okay, but never seemed to match evazote to me. The target blue foam that I tried was not as good as Walmarts. I took the target foam back and got a refund. Those stores probably get foam from different manufacturers so YMMV.

Yup. I too prefer Wal Mart's el cheapo blue foam.

No problem with cold permeating up from the ground at all for temps down to 25-30F. My lowest experience was around 17F — when I felt the cold from the ground. Not unbearably cold, but definitely noticeable.

John, Ben thanks for the help.

Another question -whats the thinnest blue foam can you can get at walmart? How would it compare to GGthinlight in flexibility, durabilty, R value and weight?

El cheapo blue foam comes in a standard thickness – 3/8th of an inch.

ok. thanks Ben.