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PostedMay 23, 2008 at 6:19 pm

Does anyone have any experience with their latest bivy, the Ptarmigan?

http://titaniumgoat.com/Bivy.html

Is Intrepid fabric any good (they compare it to Pertex Quantum and claim it's more water resistant)?
I like the weight and price of it; I'm looking to move out of my Tarptent Contrail and into my Oware Cattarp 1.1 for the Sierras this summer and have yet to purchase a tarp bivy.
Is this one worth it?
Thanks.

Richard D. BPL Member
PostedMay 23, 2008 at 11:17 pm

I do not have it, but I have inquired about it. The top fabric is slightly better than Pertex Quantum and is basically identical to Momentum, so it's water-repellant characteristics are somewhat better. The general consensus is that it's a good price for a good bivy.

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 3:01 am

Just got one of those a couple of weeks ago with the intention of using it as an overbag , so I have tested that INSIDE my Contrail…
works well to keep me warm ,using the No Sniveler quilt down to 2 c (easy) with only a thin top on.
A couple of days before that we had some heavy rain for a full day (hooray) so I put it out on the lawn with a thick hose inside to separate the top from the bottom. After a few hours I examined the bag. At the bottom where the bag was flat I had a pool of water on top but was dry inside. At the top in the lifted section there was some water inside, could have been from the zip (?).
So I cannot tell you for sure but it is at least water resistant.So it should work under a tarp with side splashes. I might do a hose test tomorrow.
The finish is good and the specs are accurate (6oz inc stuff sack). The material feels nice (soft) and on a still but cold night with lots of condensation about I had some condensation at the foot end (inside not on top). The No Sniveler was about 1 oz lighter after I dried it off.
Franco

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 3:24 am

I've been looking at these as well for under a tarp. The bath-tub floor looks quite high and this is important to me as i often pitch in areas with a high water table. A dry pitch can become waterlogged overnight. Does the floor material cover the sides well?
Franco? Anyone?

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 8:37 am

Thanks for the tips so far, it sounds like this will be a good pick for combination with a tarp.
I must say I really don't buy all the hype about the reflectex bottom, but as long as it keeps you dry…

Ben Kenison BPL Member
PostedMay 24, 2008 at 8:38 am

I just got mine and it looks pretty well made I can't wait to take it out. On a short test, it seemed very warm just by itself, it'll add quite a bit warmth to any sleep system.

Mike: I'd say it does. You get a good two inches or so of the floor material on the sides.

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 8:55 am

Any verdict on the bug netting options. It isn't clear from the website how the full netting option works. I'm leaning towards the net window option.
I hope you don't mind me jumping on your thread Craig.:)

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 9:21 am

Hi,
I've got one of these and I really like it as an overbag.
I combine the bivy with a Rab Top Bag and a Thermarest Womens Prolite 3, all inside (with me of course). There's plenty of room to move, and the bathtub comes up nice and high. I don't have the bug net. I usually sleep on my poncho as a groundsheet.
I slept in it recently through an amazing thunderstorm in the Pyrenees, and still felt cold underneath. I ended up putting my sitmat (a cut down Ridge Rest) under my hips, and my pack under my legs, and whatever else handy under my torso, so I'm not so sure about the silver insulating properties- it might have been the weather… or the thermarest.
I did have a tiny bit of condensation at the foot end, but nothing that affected the performance of the bag. I think condensation has more to do with what you wear and how you sleep, but the bivy was very breathable, moreso than the goretex bivy it replaced (800g vs 160g).
I was in my Shangri-la 3, and had lots of misting through the night due to the exteem weather, which the bivy handled really well. In fact it was dry the whole time. Don't undersatnd the science here, but it works.
In summary, I really like the Titanium Goat Bivy- it works perfectly as an overbag, and keeps off the spindrift and misting from the sleeping bag very well.
I hope this helps

PostedMay 24, 2008 at 10:47 am

Thanks John, an encouraging review.
Jump in anytime Mike, that's what the thread is for. I agree, the full netting hood looks odd- I don't really understand how it connects/stows/can be configured from their description. I'm also probably opting for the net window instead.
I think I'll order mine today…

Edit:
I'm convinced; I just ordered one, so I'll give everyone my impressions when it arrives. I'll make sure to include it in the reader reviews after field testing.

PostedMay 26, 2008 at 6:18 pm

It rained again, not much.
This time I put a couple of plastic drums inside and covered the zip. We had a half an hour shower (news material here…) . Took the picture shortly after.
Water did get in from several points, I guess from the wet-out areas where the fabric touches the drum, about 8 oz in total . Looking at my bucket we provably had 2 ml of rain .
So as I expected it will handle some splash but not direct or wind driven rain.
I am happy with that cause I don't use a tarp anyway.
My only night in it was a damp night with condensation coating everything ( looked as if it had rained on the car,outdoor furniture and grass), but I , like John, also only had some moisture at the foot end, the rest of the bivy and quilt were dry.
Ptarmigan wet test

Franco

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