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Need some help building a Arc Alpinist

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PostedMay 11, 2008 at 11:02 pm

I am moving to Oregon next year from the great state of Arizona, and as such I have never really had to deal with the kind of weather I will be experiencing out there (moving to Bend area, but trips all over the state are likely). I am looking to purchase a Arc Alpinist this summer for the colder months of the year, and have already decided on most of the options (differential cut, 2 oz. overfill, extra strap) to help fend off the cold of 3+ season backpacking out there. What I am wondering is what type of fabric would be best? Of course I want the lightest but I fear that the DWR on Quantum will not hold up on the multiday trips, so I was thinking about getting the Epic (the thought of added weight to my pack makes me have nightmares though).

PostedMay 12, 2008 at 8:02 am

That choice should depend on what you're using for a shelter, among other things.

My Arc Alpinist is identical to your specs. I went with Pertex Quantum for the shell, pairing it with a Momentum 90 bivy (MLD Soul) and a tarp. That's a pretty common setup around here I'd think. Searching keywords epic quantum nunatak turns up most of the rationale. Same debate can be found about bivies. My experience with Epic-shelled down: its poorer breathability results in more accumulated condensation over longer trips (more than a couple of nights) compared to Quantum or Momentum, and slower dry times. Epic may be okay for shorter exposures to wet conditions, where resistance to outside moisture trumps the ability to dissipate internal moisture. Or where durability is more important. (I like my Epic Teenaway slippers for these reasons). But overall Quantum gives me a better balance in a quilt: excellent breathability, moderate resistance to wetting out, quick drying and light weight.

In context, I prefer to use shelters which are matched to the conditions – i.e. an ample 9X7 tarp in wet weather, or a light double wall tent for wet weather near freezing or colder. The extra weight of Epic wouldn't deliver more performance for me.

PostedMay 12, 2008 at 10:49 am

Just for clarification I have an Oware 1.1 Cat Tarp and a TiGoat Ptarmigan bivy. Hope that helps.

PostedMay 16, 2008 at 7:49 pm

If you call Nunatak, Tom will be happy to discuss what fabric will best suit your intended use. He's a great guy to work with.

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