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tarp vs bivy on HST

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Gustav Koven BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2008 at 8:11 pm

Hello– My first post. Hiking the High Sierra Trail this summer in August with a friend who's contemplating taking a bivy for his shelter. I've never bivied before, but have plenty of experience in a tarp. We'll be above treeline every now and then I think, and I don't take trekking poles, which makes using a tarp a PITA when there are no sticks around. I don't really see how a bivy could work though with rain and/or condensation and a down bag. Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?

Monty Montana BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2008 at 11:01 pm

Hi Gustav! If you'll be spending a lot of time in wet, humid conditions or if nighttime temperatures drop down to the dew point, then the waterproof-breathable type bivy loses some of its breathability, which means condensation inside. This should not be of great concern for a short 2-3 day trip, but for a trip of longer duration the down bag will require daily drying out in the sun; if this is not possible then the down will start to clump together and thus will not insulate. Not the most desirable outcome!

What I do to avoid wetting out my down bag is to add a vapor barrior liner. This keeps the humidity exuded by your skin out of the down and thus keeps it dry. A lot of folks at first think this arrangement must be terribly uncomfortable, but not so. After a certain level of humidity is attained the skin ceases to respire and there's no problem with condensation inside the liner. As a bonus the liner adds about 10F to the bag.

An even better approach is to team a tarp with a water repellant-breathable bivy. They're lighter – around 6 oz – and they breath so well that you could dispense with the VB liner, though in continually wet conditions I would still use it.

Happy trails!

Jason Brinkman BPL Member
PostedMay 7, 2008 at 11:48 pm

Sounds to me like you could use an Integral Designs eVENT Unishelter – basically a hooped bivy of fully waterproof and highly breathable fabric. Heavy, but eliminates the need for a tarp if used carefully.

Steve B BPL Member
PostedMay 8, 2008 at 11:22 am

I've hiked the HST out and back in 2003. You will probably only camp in one place that is above treeline; Crabtree. Hamilton lakes is close, but the camping there is among a few trees.

With that in mind, I would just grab a stick along the trail and use the tarp. Just be sure to grab it before you get into camp.

Have fun! It is a great hike. It has hotsprings and plenty of pit toilets (hard to believe, but I only had to dig a hole once)

Steve

Gustav Koven BPL Member
PostedMay 9, 2008 at 10:42 am

Thank you all for your thoughtful replies. I think I will take the tarp and continue to hone my tarp skills.

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