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Combing sleeping bags and quilts

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John Adams BPL Member
PostedJan 7, 2008 at 11:25 am

Not trying to hog up everyone's ideas but I have one more question from "What are your sleeping bag(s) for different temps?"

What do you think of this?

Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. For simplicity's sake (and after reading through many of your ideas), I am thinking about just having the two:

JRB No Sniveller (Long) for temps over 40 deg F
WM Alpinlite (Long) for temps between 10-40 deg F
Combining the two for temps below 10 deg F

The weight of both would be about 58 ounces–6 ounces more than the EMS Mountain 0–NOT ultralite, and maybe not even lightweight, and yet offers the simplicity of only keeping up with two sleepings.

What are your thoughts on this? I have created the backing for the Sniveller that would make this do-able.

Here are two pictures: One comparing the EMS with the Alpinlite inside the Sniveller and the second is the underside of the Sniveller.

comparison of WM/JBR to EMS 0

Piece of Nylon omnitaped to JBR

PostedJan 8, 2008 at 6:03 am

I'm experimenting with virtually the same set-up. The biggest reason is I do more summer hiking than winter, and the idea of purchasing a dedicated winter bag isn't that appealing to me. This set-up (hopefully) allows me to get away with 2 purchases vs. 3. I also love quilts, especially in the summer – unlimited venting options, tangle free.

I'll be trying the cold weather set up (EMS ML 20 and No Sniveller, balaclava) in Feb. Temp should get down to about -5 to 0. I'll let you know how it goes. I do have a back up plan in case the temp is too cold for the combo. I'll post how it goes.

Can I ask how you secured the NS to the bag? Your set up looks perfect.

John Adams BPL Member
PostedJan 8, 2008 at 9:56 am

I tried my hand at sewing to get the No Sniveller setup. (I asked my wife to teach me to sew and it was painful, but anyway.) I bought the omnitape for the No Sniveller. Actually I bought 2 sets of it. Instead of using the down to earth pad converter, I cut out a piece of ripstop nylon that approximated the down to earth pad. I sewed the omnitape to the nylon so that I could fully enclose the quilt when it was colder. When I do this I have to enter through the neck (or top) opening. It is almost like a sleeping bag with no hood and no insulation on bottom. It is wide but this has two benefits. 1. It is fully enclosed and so less drafts in colder weather. 2. It allows me to use it as an over bag for the alpinlite. (Sidenote: I just returned the EMS MTN LT 20. I compared it with the loft of the alpinlite and it was not as much–however it was almost twice as much $$.)

All that to say that I basically used a piece of nylon and the omnitape to enclose the No Sniveller.

Thanks for your reply. Let me know how your system works.

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