Warmth chart for fleece types?

[chris smead]

Sorry… I knows there's been many threads on finding the perfect fleece… I'm looking for a chart…perhaps with CLO ratings comparing the different fleece types. Anyone know if this exists? My specific question is which insulates better under a shell: Powerdry HE, power stretch, or classic 100. I know the furry high loft stuff is warmer for the weight….but I have an 8oz weight budget I'm trying to stay under. This is a supplemental layer between my base and puffy, and also insurance for wet weather. (I've had puffy jackets turn to soggy mush in heavy rain even under a shell).

[Richard May]

There are a few that might fit. Here's the ones I know: A New Paradigm for Understanding Garment Warmth http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=18950&disable_pagination=1 The best clothing combinations for backpacking or hiking? http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/xdpy/forum_thread/9378/index.html

[Richard Nisley]

http://www.backpackinglight.com/cgi-bin/backpackinglight/forums/thread_display.html?forum_thread_id=101420&nid=858799&print=1

[chris smead]

Perfect thanks guys…not sure why the heck I couldn't find those. (I never said I was smart). The charts are a bit tricky to read, but if I'm reading these right, it looks like power stretch is the way to go for warmth. What's the lightest power stretch hoody out there? And sorry if that's been asked before….

[chris smead]

By chance does anyone know how Melanzana's micro grid stacks up against the others in the chart? Seems very similar to power dry HE….but a little more wind resistant and a little fuzzier. Trying to see if it's worth the extra 2 oz compared to my Mec T3. The Power stretch stuff I've seen so far is a little heavier than I hoped…

[Serge Giachetti]

@christopher haglofs has an excellent powerstretch hoodie at 11oz, called the triton pro hood. The fit and features are perfect IMO, balaclava style hood, thumb loops, long sleeves with good articulation and a slim cut. The L fits me perfectly at 6'2 175. It is fairly thin though, and i wouldn't be surprised if my 100 weight fleece is a little warmer. One thing that nisley's charts lack is that there are different weights of powerstretch with different warmth, so I don't think its necessarily a clear winner on warmth. However, I think the excellent wicking and slight windblocking of the fabric might make it a more functional layering option as a mid than pure fleece.

[Jeff McWilliams]

Go figure. I'm confused by his statement that Power Stretch has the highest thermal efficiency of any baselayer he tested. Based on the chart, he gives the Patagonia R1 the highest Iclo/Oz for a base layer, and that's Power Grid, not Power Stretch, correct? Edit: Never mind. I didn't see the REI PowerStretch fleece higher up in the list.

[Simon Kenton]

Hey MK – how come the above links don’t direct to their respective pages anymore? Thanks!

[Link .]

because this thread is before the big BPL update that happened( switch to WordPress )

[Paul S.]

The topic IDs are still correct but the URL changes so you can copy/paste the topic ID into a new URL and it works.

https://backpackinglight.com/forums/topic/101420/#post-2185131

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