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Etekcity UL stove with piezo ignition on sale $9.99
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I have one of these and the igniter never worked, its easy to take off though and saves you an ounce+
That would probably make it lighter too. How is the stove otherwise? It has good reviews on Amazon
A customer Q&A indicates it is 94 grams without the case (the product description didn't give a stove-only weight). 94 grams > 25 grams (BRS-3000T for $11 to $15-ish).
http://www.amazon.com/Etekcity-Portable-Collapsible-Windproof-Backpacking/dp/B00Q6QT99A/ref=dp_ob_title_sports a newer version with remote canister. I wonder if you can turn the canister upside down.
>"I wonder if you can turn the canister upside down." I don't see pre-heat fuel piping near the burner. So you'd be relying on the central stem of the stove conducting and the flame radiating enough heat down to the orifice to provide the heat of vaporization. Many stoves do that, once warm, but there's a lot of reflective material around the burner (generally a good thing). And the thing weighs 1.2 pounds. Since we have options under 1.2 ounces!. . . . But for car camping, base camp, home-power-failure supplies, etc, it's cheap, low (probably pretty stable), and may have slightly-above-average efficiency due to the reflective windscreen and almost certain beats more open design in windy conditions (although a piece of aluminum foil does that for any stove).
1.2 pounds… oh, didn't see that : ) yeah, I was looking for a loop of tubing in the flame but didn't see it either
That is, I think, a Chinese clone of a Korean stove, possibly an old discontinued Kovea (because I know I have seen it before). No, it has no preheat tube so don't invert the canister. It is not what one might call very light, but it would make a robust stove for car camping. I would point out that there are many, many Chinese stove companies we have never heard of (yet), but they do seem to be coming out of the woodwork now. A friend of mine commented that there are whole Chinese villages dedicated solely to making camping stoves – for LOCAL sale (ie inside China). They copy each other frantically. There is no concept of IP in the Chinese culture. I think they have blown the mystique of Western stove companies right out the window. Companies like MSR get their stoves made in China, but they are usually several years obsolete. The Western stoves are no safer: think of the CO emissions from the Reactor and one of the ill-fated Primus stoves (it was even worse). Cheers
Many Chinese people use camping stoves for regular home use? It doesn't seem like our standard canisters would be the best
>"It doesn't seem like our standard canisters would be the best" Because of the cost? Stove canisters aren't inherently expensive to make or fill. In mass quantity, in a country with low labor costs. . . In a farmer's hut, with no natural gas service, possibly no electrical grid, 400-500g butane canisters are superior in convenience to heavier propane canisters (they would be carrying these back from the store) and even more so due to performance, safety, and odor when compared to gasoline, diesel, alcohol, or charcoal. An aluminum can of Rock Star soda is, what? $3 to $4. An aluminum can of off-brand soda can be $0.20. Everything in China is off-brand. Edited to add: And if they refill them, the container price goes away. Certainly those no "DOT $25,000 fine for refilling" warning like the 16-ounce propane cylinders have in the USA.
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