Sorry for probably the redundant post. I have been lurking for a few weeks now and finally decided to post. I am looking at the EE Revelation. I am pretty much set on this model. I have been going back and forth in whether to get the 30F or the 20F bag. I am wondering if the 20F is overkill, but also I feel it may end all be all for my quilt. For a bit of insight I live in GA and frequent the AT and another trails year long. I also sleep on an xtherm. Would it be worth the ounces to get the warmer quilt? Or is the temperature rating negligible? Any advice would be appreciated!
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I bought a 20° Revelation earlier this year and I love it. I think getting a 20° is perfect for 3 season weather pretty much anywhere. I've mostly used mine when camping at 9-10kft and it's been perfect down to the 30's. I love the warmth to weight ratio. It's pretty amazing.
I've never been there but doesn't Georgia get pretty warm and steamy in the summer? If you can afford it, get the 20 and then a synthetic 50* for the summer time. You could also use the synthetic over the 20 for cold winter trips. But if you can only get one, a 20 degree is in my opinion the most versatile.
The 30 degree quilt is plenty for 3 season use for you. If you do any winter backpacking, the 20 degree quilt would be nice. Or you could add a 50 degree synth quilt, as mentioned above, and add the 50 degree on top of your 30 for cooler camping. That would be a pretty versatile system. If I was you and wanted just one quilt, I would get the 20 degree, though. You can vent a quilt. Then you can use it in winter Appalachian trips and do some western mountain trips with enough insulation too.
"Would it be worth the ounces to get the warmer quilt? Or is the temperature rating negligible?" For the minimal increase in weight, the 20 degree quilt will be noticeably warmer. Given that quilts can suffer from drafts and there is a short learning curve when using them, I think the 20 degree is the way to go.
Thank you guys so much for the advice! I will have to pull the trigger on the 20* quilt. I will have time before the summer to save for a 50*. But it does get pretty warm and muggy in the summer so I may just use a silk liner.
James, I own a 20F Revelation, 900 fill, last year's model. I will be taking it on a trip to Michigan's UP starting on October 11th and will be back on the 20th at the latest. The temps may very well get down into the 20s at night. This would be the first time I've had it anywhere near its rating. I'll be using it with an xlite. If you can wait to order, I'd be happy to report back as soon as I return.
I should add that the actual weight is exactly 20 oz with the included silnylon stuff sack and pad straps.
Second the 20/50 combo, though I don't subscribe to using the synthetic quilt for the lighter one-just means a heavier quilt that doesn't stuff as well, or last as long. I use a 30 and 50, which has been about perfect for me, but my 30 is underrated and I'm a human blast furnace, so a 20 might be better for most people. The two quilts can be used together when we have those few weeks of polar vortex-like weather, or if you get up on the AT at higher elevations.
I'm in Georgia and have a 30F EE Enigma (and use to have a 30F Rev), I've never needed more quilt than that for 3-season locally. In fact, there are times when the 30F is too much but can be managed by sleeping in just underwear and adjusting the straps to allow drafts on the sides. If it's going to be too cold for a 30F quilt around here then it won't be by much and should be handled well supplementing with your choice of base layer. If it's reaaaaally cold I can put on my down puffy which I'm carrying anyway.
"If it's going to be too cold for a 30F quilt around here then it won't be by much and should be handled well supplementing with your choice of base layer." That's pretty much true, I just think in terms of winter, and a lot of people don't get out then. A few years ago, I was using a 40F bag as my "3 season"(fall, winter, spring) bag, with the 15F one only coming out a couple of times. The last two years we've seen a lot of lower temps, though, with several weeks of teens and even single digits here in AL. I've even been out ~0F or a little lower a couple of times in TN. I wonder what it's going to be like this year…
I agree with JR, you're going to hate the 20 degree quilt in the Southeast for about 8 months of the year. Even though it requires some funding, I'd suggest purchasing 20, 30 and 40 degree bags/quilts and then use whichever one suits the season. When temps dip below freezing you really do need a bag/quilt that has enough down to do the job. Layering with a 30 degree bag/quilt in frigid temps just doesn't get it.
I'm also a 3-quilter… until I get another one! :^) I have a Prodigy 40 reg/reg for when it's cool and very damp. Used it a few times with sustained, very high relative humidity and rain knocking condensation mist onto it, and it was a stellar performer. Got an Enigma 20 long/wide for winter. Long/wide because I wear my down parka and pants for sleeping and it's good to a little below 0F with the right pad combo. The Enigma has a sewn footbox, which is fine for cold weather since I'm not going to need to ventilate… at least not much. Finally (and most recently) the Revelation 50 reg/reg for summer SUL-ish trips. 11.3 oz and smooshes down to the size of a softball. I got the 800 GDD DownTek for fill, and while it's too early to tell for sure, I think there might be some value to DWR treatment for this purpose.
Yea Bob, now all you need is an EE Convert 30 and you'll be ready.
That looks like a superb product but I don't see myself going back to bags. In fact, I'm building myself up for a big closet cleaning and have a couple of bags that will be on GS in the not-too-distant future!
I use a 20 degree Revelation in both peninsulas of Michigan and find it to be versatile for 3 season and shoulder season use. If I need to be a bit warmer, I layer more. If I get warm at night, I vent the quilt and/or use thinner base layers. Additionally, if you find that your EE quilt isn't warm enough you could possibly send it in to them for more down fill.
I have a 30 deg Revelation. I love it. Great price and although I get drafts every once in a while it's a minimal issue at most. Probably a combo of being a side sleeper and user error. I'm a cold sleeper and I feel comfortable down to 40 deg and could easily go to freezing with some layers. I feel like their ratings are pretty conservative.
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