I have a duomid with a solo innernet that i use as my primary solo shelter in 3 season sierra trips. I have found the solo innernet to be too small and cramped for my 6' frame. It seems to suck too much space out of even half the duomid. I'm thinking a bivy like the MLD superlight would make me feel less constrained if simply left it open on nights where bugs were not an issue. Not sure that i am willing to sleep on a ground sheet under my duomid without bug/critter protection yet. What are your thoughts of my feeling of being cramped? Will the bivy make it worse? Can i leave the bivy unzipped on most night so as night to feel cramped? And lastly, what are some good (cheaper) bivy options where i don't need 3 layer protection due to my duomid? The superlight is something like $250+ in large sized cuben which is steep.
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Bivy instead of innernet in my duomid?
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I have a solo inner and a bivy to use in my duo. I honesty like the bivy a little better for the exact reasons you said. The solo is a little cramped for me and the bivy even zipped up feels more comfortable. The only time I use my innernet now is when it's too hot to cover up. A bivy in that temp is way too clammy for me. Can't comment on the superlight because it was too much for me to justify but I have a cuben borah that I like a lot.
I am not a bivy fan and the DuoMid provides a ton of coverage. For bugs, I use the Sea to Summit nano net. It weights under 3oz and takes up no space in my pack. It also fits under my Gatewood. I am looking at tarps now and plan to use it with a tarp if I go that direction. It is also a lot cheaper then a bivy.
I like the idea. Do you have any pictures how you made the STS Nano work in your Duomid? Or is it quite foolproof…
I also use the nano bug net in a Ultamid 2 (HMG). It is fool proof really. I attached a tiny plastic eye to the inside of my tent to attach the peak to. I usually use 2 of these at a time when I share my tent with another 6'2 guy on expedition trips. The cons for me are: 1. In heavy condensation environments the net touches my sleeping bag and wicks moisture into it. 2. I have used 2 of these for about 30 nights know and they are beginning to get holes. These are not durable, nor cheap, and under normal conditions you can expect to have to replace it over time. But if you can manage the condensation and are not adverse to funding ultralight replaceable gear, it is does its job very well. Derrick
I use a DuoMid with a Superlight bivy as my all-purpose solo shelter option. Admittedly the DuoMid is large enough that my 5'10" frame doesn't really need a bivy under it for protection from the elements. But I figured that a Superlight (with cuben floor) doesn't weigh much more than a groundsheet, so I got the bivy as it has more functionality. It acts as my ground cloth, keeps bugs out when they are prolific, and maybe even adds a couple of degrees to my sleep system. On good nights it allows the option to cowboy camp in just the bivy, which I tend to do quite a bit. In this way it's modular, and I use the relatively bomber DuoMid for bad conditions. I'm also a very active sleeper so it also protects me from brushing my nice down bag against condensation. I like it. I've pretty much got my backpacking system nailed down at this point, and this is my default solo shelter option for almost any conditions. Regarding feeling cramped- as I mentioned I'm only 5'10"-ish and tend to engage in somnolent gymnastics, but I got the Large Superlight so that I can really spread out in it. I also got the large netting option instead of the tiny window, and this also helps keep me from feeling confined. I'm quite comfortable.
Good feedback Dean, i appreciate it.
The Stansport net is another option, about the same as the Sea to Summit but half the price. Also comes in a two person version.
Mitchell, Do you have a weight for the Stansport net please? Thanks!
I have a ZPacks Hexamid Solo+ tarp and a Borah cuben bivy. We just completed Sections K and I of the PCT over 8 days, and out of those I only deployed the tarp once (thanks to 12 rain drops that fell while we were setting up camp). Seven nights I was in the bivy by itself — my first time using it. So maybe getting used to that made the one night under the tarp (also my first use) seem less cramped / claustrophobic than if I had started out in both. The bivy is very roomy so I never felt cramped in it, to begin with. Here are some pics of the full setup. The bivy has corner loops that I attach to the tarp's bathtub floor attachment points with short elastic cords — works perfectly. The tarp fully covers the bivy; in the pic below the beak is rolled up and I hadn't centered the bivy under it.
I also attach a loop on the bivy mesh face panel to the apex of the tarp with a length of elastic bead cord I bought from a fabric shop. It keeps the mesh off my face. Borah Gear added the face panel loop for free.
Finally, I also have a S2S nano bug pyramid but haven't yet tried it in the tarp. Edited to add: I'm 6'2" and the bivy is a long/large. I suspect the S2S net may not fit me well.
>"Do you have a weight for the Stansport net please? Thanks!" I don't, I ended up cutting mine up to use in various projects and didn't write down the weight. Somebody on Amazon said it's 6.8 oz, which sounds about right.
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