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    Gordon Gray
    BPL Member

    @gordong

    Locale: Front Range, CO

    Not sure if this is the appropriate section for this….

    http://www.outdooralliance.org/blog/2015/7/14/5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-public-land-heist

    What are your thoughts?

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    David Thomas
    BPL Member

    @davidinkenai

    Locale: North Woods. Far North.

    My thoughts are mixed as I type this from my house, built on 13 acres we bought from the "gubbermint" 16 years ago. In our case, it was sold by the Kenai Peninsula Borough (local county), they having been granted it by the State of Alaska, the State having gotten lands from the Federal Government as part of Alaska Statehood (although the process hasn't yet been completed and is still ongoing: Fed to State and State to Local).

    In our case, it was "in-fill" – there were already residential parcels on 3 sides (and ocean on the fourth) so it didn't create a new tendril of urbanization and gray infrastructure into wild lands. Broadly, the State and Boroughs like land in private hands because then there is a larger tax base for Boroughs and cities and therefore a lower mill rate on other properties. Also, the pave-the-state types see any development as pro-jobs, pro-business, and certainly I bought more building supplies and labor hours than if I hadn't built anything, but no more than if I'd bought a lot from existing private land. And there wasn't any great recreational use of the land prior to sale. And it sold at market price – a public auction – and we were the high bidder.

    But I suspect the more contentious issues will be sweet-heart deals with large resource developers ("drill, baby, drill!") at below-market prices, that carve up larger tracts of wilderness. In general, I observe the following:

    – It is harder to create new, contiguous tracts of wilderness than it is to break them up,

    – The administrations / congressional majorities most likely to sell off land are the last ones I'd want to set the price, policies or conditions of such sales.

    – Virtually all natural resources (oil, coal, timber, metals) are fungible – meaning you can get money for them or buy them with money. Helium (hard to separate and we have almost all the world's supply) and natural gas (hard to pipe from place to place and bothersome to liquify and ship) are exceptions, but we currently have a glut of natural gas. I'd rather we NOT mine and pump our natural resources while the Saudis, Russians, and others are so eager to sell theirs. I'd rather leave our resources in the ground for our grandchildren to use.

    – especially since our grandchildren will probably extract and use those resources more wisely. In a 80-mpg hybrid instead of a 11-mpg F-350. With cleaner mining and drilling techniques. With stricter emissions rules.

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    Greg Mihalik
    Spectator

    @greg23

    Locale: Colorado

    David,

    There are parcels, in-holdings, school sections, etc that are intended to be for sale, or like you, "urban plots" that once were "out there", but now of awkward value to BuRec for grazing, mining, etc.

    I think Gordon's concern, and those in the link, is the sale or relinquishment of LARGE tracks of land that would remove them from public access and thus, federal protections – like Utah's ongoing attempt at about 30 million acres.

    This Link offers more perspective.

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    Dean F.
    BPL Member

    @acrosome

    Locale: Back in the Front Range

    I might find myself in the streets with a rifle and a sack of Molotov cocktails…

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    HkNewman
    BPL Member

    @hknewman

    Locale: The West is (still) the Best

    Looks like some cooler heads may prevail in the Senate at least at the federal level (the House tried to redirect dedicated conservation monies to oil worker training). http://www.abqjournal.com/679145/news/senate-panel-passes-public-land-access-bill.html

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